Surprised at healthy people saying they won’t send dc to school until there’s a vaccination

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I absolutely understand that if your dc has a health condition there’s no way you would put in any situation where they could catch covid. Likewise if you or your partner have a health condition or other vulnerable dc. However I am baffled as to why you would not want your healthy dc getting back to school and their friends ASAP but want to wait for a vaccination. That could be years! As long as the vulnerable population remains safe self isolating I cannot understand why there is such horror at the thought of schools reopening.

People like to think that safe and not safe are binary but they aren't. Everything we do has a small risk. People die every year in cars , of cancer, of falling down stairs, chocking, on hills, etc. We need to find a level of acceptable risk.

I agree OP.

Every year a comparably tiny number of otherwise healthy people die of lots of things, yet we send our children to school despite the risk of those. I view covid-19 as a similar level of risk to a healthy child with no vulnerable family members, so I'm keen to get mine back to school when we see a clear drop in new cases etc.

It is clearly going to be much more difficult for families with one or more “vulnerable” or even “extremely vulnerable” adults or DC in the household.

OP, people have answered your question directly by saying 'because healthy people die of this illness' in significant numbers. You've ignored that response which suggests that you don't want to understand and you've started a thread to criticise others and tell everyone what to do (you've already used the word hysteria-bingo) under the guise of trying to 'understand'.

I've not ignored this. I've asked for links to these statistics because I don't cannot find any that show healthy people die of this illness' in significant numbers.

Because most people are hopeless at assessing relative risk, and the government/media have done a bloody good job at terrifying us all into staying indoors. I was just discussing with DP last night how it’s interesting that the messaging has shifted from the scientific #flattenthecurve to the much more emotive #stayhomesavelives, and people’s fear levels have increased as the messaging has become more pervasive and dramatic.

We will be sending DD back to nursery as soon as it reopens. Quality of life is more important to me than eradicating any potential risk, and my elderly parents would say the same.

Very different for vulnerable and shielding children and adults obviously, but I’m bemused by the number of my entirely healthy friends and neighbours who are now convinced they’ll die from brushing against someone during a walk in the park.

OP, have you had pneumonia? If so, how were you? Hopefull far better than me.

I'd consider myself to be healthy, but I've had it twice. You feel absolutely awful for a few days before (last time I couldn't face washing for four days and only had a bath because DH ran one for me and dried me before I saw the doctor). It's debilitating, on both occasions I had problems not being sick after I'd taken ABs (luckily I was so tired, I went to bed and slept through it). You make yourself go back to work a couple of weeks after, but don't feel up to it for another four weeks. And this is only pneumonia, some are going through it a lot worse.

I work in a school. I'll go back when required but I don''t want the increased risk of passing it to others, or them passing it to me, as none of us know the outcome.

If people want to keep their kids home, they don't need to justify it to you. People can decide for themselves what they are willing to risk and that's perfectly fine.

I was just discussing with DP last night how it’s interesting that the messaging has shifted from the scientific #flattenthecurve to the much more emotive #stayhomesavelives, and people’s fear levels have increased as the messaging has become more pervasive and dramatic.

“Flatten the curve” isn’t reassuring though, is it? Even though that’s actually the lock down aim. It basically means, “Yeah, we know a whole heap of you will get it and some will get really sick but we can’t have you all trying to die at once”.

WE DO NOT NEED THRICE DAILY THREADS ON THIS TOPIC.

Thank you.

I think it is hard for everyone. Most children are very protected now, when I was a child it was normal to get mumps, measles, scarlet fever, whooping cough, chicken pox even polio. I remember small pox outbreaks in the 60s. Mercifully, and thanks to science, it has become much rarer to face these sorts of threats for our children so it is no wonder lots of parents are risk averse. The real threat from schools reopening is probably to teachers.

Healthy people have died. Simple

Not really simple though is it? Healthy people die everyday from a myriad of things.
We don't panic over that?
It's all getting out of hand now. My kids will be back as soon as they open, as their mental health is more important. There is a much higher risk of that being negativity affected than them dying of a virus.

Also would love to see the stats for the "significant" number of healthy people dying from this

@Dozer I have told my work they can make me redundant/I will leave if they are unhappy with me working from home full time. I am a senior software developer and worked from home 2 days a week prior to this crisis so the likelihood of this being an issue with my employer is remote, my husband also works from home full time and did prior to the crisis in the same industry.

As for posters asking me to quantify what I consider to be under control, I already explained this, widespread testing capabilities. I don't feel the need to justify this further, so long as I believe I am keeping my family safe to the best of my ability then the opinion of internet randoms is my lowest priority.

As someone who has had a family member with underlying health issues die from covid recently, I am being particularly cautious.

Because to start with we had it rammed down our throats it was only the elderly and vulnerable at risk and now how in true that has shown itself to be with children , teenagers, young mums , middle aged dads etc all DYING
Why are you surprised that the majority of people want to keep their most precious family members safe ?!
I wouldn't be playing roulette with my children's life

FOR FUCK'S SAKE

If you don’t like corona threads, ignore them. Not surprising given the circumstances that there are duplicate/v similar threads.

I wouldn't be playing roulette with my children's life

But you do everyday? Whether it be going for a drive in the car, climbing the monkey bars, going out and catching flu, crossing a road.... I could go on

We know healthy people can die of this but how many healthy children have died? I think it is very low. I wonder how that compares to children being killed in accidents in a similar period. We need to live and not just exist and I think that is even more important for children.

I do think they need to look at how children will return to school, reducing the numbers in at any one time so that social distancing is more realistic, perhaps looking at the youngest not being in school but more freedom for them to see friends in small numbers e.g. two friends having a play date.

I don't think it is easy for anyone and we all need a bit of empathy, anxiety is a real thing.

"I wouldn't be playing roulette with my children's life"

Mrssunshine that is exactly what you are doing every time you step out of your front door.

Do you also post as an NHS worker on Twitter by any chance?

@LEELULUMPKIN how do you know I m stepping out my house ? 🤔

The amount of people saying it's is a very low percentage of healthy children that have died'

Oh well that makes it ok then.

Fucking hell these threads

Or dozer the people starting these threads could look at the boards first and add their thoughts to the myriad already existing threads?? Just a thought.

The problem is that there are a significant number of usually healthy people who fall into the vulnerable group for covid19.
Many people will have someone over 70 in their families or someone with asthma, type 2 diabetes, high blood pressure. Many teachers will have these conditions too. Some of the other listed conditions are also common and some people who have them will be active working people.
If the schools open too early these people will be put at great risk.
We need to track and trace like in Germany.
Let the numbers get low and then track, trace and isolate every case. People would be much safer if they knew where the clusters were.

I mean in a normal situation. As a PP said. You have been playing roulette since the very day you were born.