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Surprised at healthy people saying they won’t send dc to school until there’s a vaccination

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sunshineanddaffodils · 21/04/2020 08:47

I absolutely understand that if your dc has a health condition there’s no way you would put in any situation where they could catch covid. Likewise if you or your partner have a health condition or other vulnerable dc. However I am baffled as to why you would not want your healthy dc getting back to school and their friends ASAP but want to wait for a vaccination. That could be years! As long as the vulnerable population remains safe self isolating I cannot understand why there is such horror at the thought of schools reopening.

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rockofages · 23/04/2020 08:35

Having been slagged off on here,and in real life, for not providing enough work, sending too much, work that is only practising what they can already do is a waste of time, why are they sending new stuff as I’m not a teacher and don’t want to/can’t teach, no communication from school, teachers emailing or phoning me all the time and I’m sick of it etc etc why would I want to put myself and family members in the vulnerable category in harm’s way by going back to work in a school before it is totally safe to do so?Happy to teach and care for key workers’ children who, despite the horrendous days they are having, still find time to say thank you at the end of the day. Happy to plan, mark, contact and work on phone and laptop 12 hours a day from home, but not prepared to go back into a job in which social distancing is impossible, with probable significant staff absence, to placate people who have no respect for my profession.

TwistofFate · 23/04/2020 09:24

"Young and healthy/no known underlying health conditions" is a broad description that isn't all that helpful. Does the young person live a sedentary lifestyle or get enough exercise? Do they have a lot of stress in their life? Do they eat a healthy diet? Do they smoke? And most importantly, how often do they get ill and how quickly do they recover? You can be young and seemingly healthy with a weak immune system.

It's horrible for the people grieving their loved ones, but the vast majority of people who contract covid-19 recover without hospitalization or any other form of treatment because their immune system will fight it off.

Health-wise most people seem to live under the assumption that "it won't happen to me", and because this is the first time the all of society has come to a shuddering halt, a lot of people are anxious because covid-19 seems like a more real and immediate threat than most other illnesses and conditions.

Politicians and health advisors don't expect us to stay at home until a vaccine is created, they just don't want everybody getting sick at the same time so the NHS gets overwhelmed. 24/7 News coverage isn't helping either and I fully expect that people will still be dying from Covid-19 long after the MSM have lost interest and moved on to the next crisis. Hmm

0v9c99f9g9d939d9f9g9h8h · 23/04/2020 09:28

Not that kind of low.... Enjoy the daily mail.

Quartz2208 · 23/04/2020 09:41

@rockofages I am sorry you feel that way. People are scared and when that happens they lash out and I think at the moment teachers are sadly at the forefront of this. They also desperately want children to get back to normal and for it to be safe

I have realised trying to home school mine what an absolute skill teaching is as I am awful at it.

@0v9c99f9g9d939d9f9g9h8h I posted this further up from the bbc about how the risk from CV compares to a usual risk

www.bbc.com/news/health-51979654

It shows my age (40) are the most at risk I think from dying from this more than they normally would be at risk of dying

Hercwasonaroll · 23/04/2020 12:00

Oh there's another kind of really low now?

Good lord you are a dick.

RedLentilYellowLentil · 23/04/2020 12:44

As long as the vulnerable population remains safe self isolating I cannot understand why there is such horror at the thought of schools reopening.

You make it sound as though the vulnerable are a small group, OP, but if you add together everyone who is over 60 (who are now being considered as vulnerable as the over-70s), plus everyone on the shielding list, plus everyone not on the shielding list but who has diabetes, asthma, COPD, hypertension or an auto-immune condition (plus many other conditions I'm glossing over), plus people who are obese, plus anyone from a BAME group... Are you starting to understand why sending the children of all of these people back to a six-hour bath in germ soup every day may not be such a great idea until a lot more is possible in terms of testing for, treating and preventing this disease? It would be better in my view to beef up the infrastructure for teaching children remotely, which is going to become the new normal for at least some children for a long time to come, I think.

Hadenoughfornow · 23/04/2020 12:48

Hypertension does not mean you are classed as vulnerable.

Obesity does not mean you are classed as vulnerable (unless BMI higher than 40)

Hadenoughfornow · 23/04/2020 12:49

How do teachers get paid if the government has no money?

0v9c99f9g9d939d9f9g9h8h · 23/04/2020 16:56

Are you a native English speaker? Low has always had two meanings. I can see why you're happy with information from the DM. Please expand your knowledge base!

Hercwasonaroll · 23/04/2020 17:30

Low has 2 meanings? Please tell me more...

TheStarryNight · 23/04/2020 18:07

@Hercwasonaroll

I think “really low” was meant in the sense of “low class” or “low blow” (below the belt) rather than “ low number”.

In Scotland if you call an action or someone “low” it means “low morals”.

Unfortunate to use it in that sense in close proximity to a figure, especially a figure relating to preventable deaths, though.

Then there’s also the sense of “the cattle are lowing”- deep sound made by a ruminant animal.

RedLentilYellowLentil · 24/04/2020 00:43

Hypertension does not mean you are classed as vulnerable.
Obesity does not mean you are classed as vulnerable (unless BMI higher than 40)

That was precisely my point @Hadenoughfornow. Obesity and hypertension won't get you 'classed as vulnerable' but you will be more vulnerable to a bad outcome, as will many other groups that the OP doesn't seem to think are justified in being concerned about themselves.

Quartz2208 · 24/04/2020 10:55

So what is the solution then because like it or not we cannot continue in this state of lockdown.

From June the affect of continuing in this state will be in the longer term far more dangerous than starting to come out of it.

But with obesity and hypertension your risk is higher in day to day like anyway. Coronavirus is merely an added risk to life.

Like all other pandemics before we are going to have to start figuring out how to

www.theatlantic.com/family/archive/2020/03/coronavirus-loneliness-and-mistrust-1918-flu-pandemic-quarantine/609163/

Here is an interesting read about the spanish flu and the length of lockdowns they had and the problems it caused

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