to think we really are 2 completely different cultures - the USA and the UK - just looking at the 'rebellion' taking place

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www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8228769/Bleak-figures-China-US-economic-hit-virus.html

I know it's only some Americans. I know that it's a massive country with many many more people than the UK

But these scenes are astounding. People flocking to beaches. Protesting about lockdown.
Protesting with guns about lockdown

You just can't imagine these scenes in the UK at the moment.
Especially not the Ohio Zombie picture

It just amazes me - sometimes you think we are very similar to the USA, and then many times, you realise we are completely different.

So Hannah yeah is promoting anti Semitic conspiracy theories that a Jewish businessman George Soros is funding lockdown protests in the US when it’s actually Trumps funders doing it .
These are the same people who funded Cambridge Analyticas election interference.

www.google.com/amp/s/www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2020/04/anti-lockdown-protests-200420180415064.html

I’m guessing that the same people who think that Soros is funding anti lockdown protests think that Bill Gates wants to put microchips in the Coronavirus Vaccine.
I just can’t tolerate this kind of nonsense.

People who are actually part of Trumps cabinet are funding organisations that lead these protests.
Operation Gridlock was "funded in large part by the DeVos family and I think it's really inappropriate to for a sitting member of the United States president's cabinet to be waging political attacks on any governor," Whitmer said, in reference to Betsy DeVos, secretary of the US Department of Education.

This is outrageous!!

Oh yes and please if you are in the US do not ingest bleach in an attempt to “clean” your body of the virus.
That Trump press conference yesterday was something else.
Perfectly demonstrated the difference between the U.K. and US govt.
Unbelievable.

Oh yes and please if you are in the US do not ingest bleach in an attempt to “clean” your body of the virus

Or stick a torch up yer arse to cure corona

He is a danger.

@rousette

Or stick a torch up yer arse to cure corona

This comes out even funnier in US because here you know a torch is always:

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Hahaha of course, I didn't think of that! Aren't they called Tiki torches or something, no idea what we call them as we don't really see or use them!

Is it a flashlight (noooo not flesh light - that is just tooooo rude!)

Lol!! Fleshlight!! Perfect!

We do say flashlight for torch.

A Tiki torch would be a tall light we’d put in the back yard or see lighting a path at the beach.

Torch for what they carry at the Olympics but can’t think of any other time I’ve seen one.

Headlines here today are amazing and inane.

“Use disinfectant only on surfaces, not in your body, EPA warns in response to Trump theory”

EPA is our federal environmental protection agency.

You really could not make this up.

@HannahYeah ...Are you hoping that he keeps running his mouth all theq way out of the election too..

@leeannb

I don’t get too wound up about it either way honestly. I find the profound lack of leadership depressing and all of the options truly bizarre. So I take more of a “watch and see what happens.” approach.

The memorable line is:

You should not judge Betsy DeVos until you have walked a mile in her house.

LOL Mockers

Doh I just now connected reading that hysterical comment that Betsy is part of the Amway empire.

As a modern language student I have witnessed strident, dismissive and offensive behaviour by Americans in Europe all of my professional life.

I’m sure there are some ok ones somewhere. I’ve not found them, though.

More wow and wtf Re Trump

The leader of an organization called Genesis II Church of Health and Healing told Trump that chlorine dioxide – a lethal industrial bleach – “can rid the body of COVID-19” days before Trump promoted disinfectant as a treatment. In his letter, Mark Grenon, an “archbishop” of Genesis II, told Trump that chlorine dioxide is “a wonderful detox that can kill 99% of the pathogens in the body.” Since the start of the pandemic, Genesis II has been marketing his “miracle mineral solution” as a cure to coronavirus, advising users, including children, to mix three to six drops of bleach in water and drink it. Last week, the Justice Department granted a temporary injunction to halt the sale of industrial bleach products by Genesis II, which was also marketing it as a cure for autism and AIDS. (The Guardian / Reuters)

The FDA warned doctors against prescribing hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine for the treatment of the coronavirus except in hospitals and research studies. The FDA said it was aware of “serious heart problems” associated with the use of the drugs and researchers recently cut a chloroquine study short after patients developed irregular heart beats and nearly two dozen died. Scientists cited a “primary outcome” of death and said the findings should “serve to curb the exuberant use” of the drug. Trump, however, has regularly touted the drugs as a potential “game changer,” saying at one point: “What do you have to lose? I really think they should try it.” (Wall Street Journal / Associated Press / CNBC / Bloomberg / CBS News /Washington Post)

The Energy and Commerce health subcommittee will hold hearings on Rick Bright’s dismissal as the head of an agency helping to develop a coronavirus vaccine. Bright said he was removed after he pressed for rigorous vetting of unproven drugs embraced by Trump. (New York Times)

It did not stop Trump urging people to take hydroxchloroquine. In his press briefing he just kept saying "take it, take it, what have you got to lose, take it" in a really weird way.
Coincidence he has shares in something to do with it? No.
He's shut up now as a few people have died with taking it.

As a modern language student I have witnessed strident, dismissive and offensive behaviour by Americans in Europe all of my professional life. I’m sure there are some ok ones somewhere. I’ve not found them, though.

The vast majority of US Citizens do not have passports. I've always found them welcoming and generous to a fault.

....but then I am English-speaking, white and European.

@Roussette

I’m on a news diet right now. I look at a couple of sources each day for anything important that I need to know in order, not much more.

So I don’t want to go looking and hope you don’t mind me asking if you know:

Have people that were prescribed hydroxychloroquine for Covid 19 died?

I remember hearing a few weeks ago that there had been some side effects. Also read about Rita Wilson and Tom Hanks experience with the drug while they were being treated in Australia.

And it is also an attitude that needs to change in the U.K. to.

The "I am better than everyone else from other countries" attitude. It is inmature and it is hurtful to everyone else.

I have only seen it really extremely to a point where it is a big problem, in the UK and the USA

Americans abroad: Shouting loudly at the locals in English and expecting them to understand. Complaining about the food, the rules, the metric roadsigns and the general lack of what they get at home.

Remind you of anyone?

@HannaYeah

As I understand it, yes. Here is one source
www.politico.com/news/2020/04/21/malaria-drug-virginia-coronavirus-study-198590

And this article... nearly 24 people died... and Z-Pak is what Trump went on about at the same too
www.cnbc.com/2020/04/24/coronavirus-citing-a-primary-outcome-of-death-researchers-cut-chloroquine-study-short-over-safety-concerns.html

"tracked 81 adult patients who were hospitalized with Covid-19 and was conducted between March 23 and April 5 at a medical care facility in Brazil. Researchers said 40 patients were given 450 milligrams of the drug twice on the first day and once every day for the following four days. The 41 others were given 600 milligrams twice daily for 10 days, they said. Patients were also given the antibiotic azithromycin, commonly known as a Z-Pak.

By day 13, six of the 40 patients in the low-dose group had died, as did 16 of the 41 patients in the high-dose group. Heart abnormalities were seen in 11 of the 81 patients. In addition, two patients in the high-dose group experienced ventricular tachycardia, a heart rhythm disorder"

Here’s the article I read: www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/story/2020-04-14/rita-wilson-coronavirus-chloroquine-side-effects

Includes an awesome version of Rita Wilson rapping with Naughty By Nature.

They are home now and safe. They were treated with this drug in Australia before we heard about the drug on the news in the US.