to think we really are 2 completely different cultures - the USA and the UK - just looking at the 'rebellion' taking place

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www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8228769/Bleak-figures-China-US-economic-hit-virus.html

I know it's only some Americans. I know that it's a massive country with many many more people than the UK

But these scenes are astounding. People flocking to beaches. Protesting about lockdown.
Protesting with guns about lockdown

You just can't imagine these scenes in the UK at the moment.
Especially not the Ohio Zombie picture

It just amazes me - sometimes you think we are very similar to the USA, and then many times, you realise we are completely different.

Rousette

Thank you! I’ll read those. Before I work on learning all the lyrics to Hip Hop Hooray.

I never checked back in on what the trials in France yielded, after the initial results. Going to go find those, too. Z-Pak is also one I refuse now after a very bad reaction once when I was sick.

The France tests were the first ones I heard about (but time hearing about that was well after Australia was already using it there, apparently ie; Wilson and Hanks.)

I’m really hopeful that our global scientific research community is going to figure out how to successfully treat and prevent this scourge sooner that I originally feared.

@MockersxxxxxxxSocialDistancing i have said many times on here that the exact same problems exist in America as exist in the UK. People thinking that their country is the best, and that they are better than everyone else.

I have only seen it to an extreme extent in the USA and the UK.

That is why both Americans and people from the UK have terrible reputations abroad. They go everywhere and tell the people there that they are better than them.

I think that the UK and the USA are seen as arrogant assholes by the rest of the world.

So have we learned in the UK that we are not better than everyone else? That everyone in the rest of the world are worth the same as us

I think the UK and US are as bad as each other in thinking they are the best... but it is a lot of Trump saying 'most powerful country in the world',
'best country in the world'
blah blah

He does that continually. With him at the helm nothing coul be further from the truth.
However, we in the UK have an arrogance about us that is embarrassing at times even though any PM we've had doesn't tell the world we're the best country ever.

I may previously have referenced Randy Newman's Political Science.

The point there is that Randy Newman is American and can say this.

Annamarie14

I’ve been annoyed by the behavior of some Americans while traveling. I remember asking my friend “why do they give these people passports?” Her reply, “Why do they let them back in after they leave?!”

Those same people annoy us from the US, also. They talk on their cellphones loudly at the airport to show their importance. They think they are hot stuff to be in the Group 1 boarding, even if you are there with them. They seem unaware that others exist and the world is not here just for them.

I have my own examples of people from other countries: Australian woman that marched into a french bakery and began loudly ordering in English. She was amazed that I’d learned to say the basics of what was required to be polite in French. She was shocked when the woman that had pretended not to understand her began helping me in fluent English because I’d been polite.

The Korean guy who bragged about spending hundreds every night he went out in Seoul. How famous his parents were, how wealthy.

Let’s not get started on handful of Chinese tourists, who didn’t even seem to notice there was anyone else in the Vatican last time I was there. Despite it being completely gridlocked.

Or the Asian man that actually pressed his stomach up against my husbands back in line at a place in London.

Selfish people, insecure people and people lacking social awareness while traveling aren’t unique to the US. We probably do have more of our fair share that are out there traveling around and ticking people off.

But I’ve had really wonderful experiences with people from all over the world both and home and while traveling. I have always been treated so well. I’ve heard and read about this “obnoxious American reputation” but in my real life experience it’s not impacted me personally nor changed my positive view of people from any culture or walk of life.

@hannayeah I am glad that you have had a great time travelling. That is excellent!

The more that we all see that we are from the WORLD, (not identifying ourselves as being from one country) the whole world will be much better

Right AnnaMarie14. I agree with your statement.

However you seem in your posts to be attributing behavior you don’t like in people to the origin of the person.

If we look at a perceived negative behavior in an individual then attribute it that person’s specific gender, culture, religion, race, origin, etc to stereotype the entire group, isn’t that the essence of xyz-ism?

@HannaYeah that is true. I need to improve myself to see people as more global aswell

On a separate note:
Here is what the FDA posted re Hydroxychloroquine:

“ FDA cautions against use of hydroxychloroquine or chloroquine for COVID-19 outside of the hospital setting or a clinical trial due to risk of heart rhythm problems

Close supervision is strongly recommended”

From www.FDA.gov

(Bolding mine)

Many headlines including AlJazeera’s cited up thread just read “FDA warns against the use of Hydroxychloroquine.”

Very different meaning to this when you leave out half of the warning.

Such a perfect example of why I no longer have any trust in the media and prefer to track down original sources of the info myself. I don’t want my news processed and translated. I want to know/read/see exactly what is happening and form my own opinions and conclusions based on that.

annemarie14

I really respect your response. Nice chatting with you and you’ve said many things I agree with on this thread.

I think we Brits are becoming this way - self centred and an 'I can do whatever the hell I please attitude'. The sense of entitlement in this country is rising exponentially as time goes on...

There is the anecdote about the American war in Vietnam:

The US troops thought they were bound to win the war because they were eating steak and drinking cold beers flown in by helicopter while the Vietnamese were living off cold rice out of a bicycle inner tube.

The Vietnamese thought they were going to win for precisely the same reasons.

It did not stop Trump urging people to take hydroxchloroquine

I have had this drug prescribed to me in the past.

It has a lot very serious side effects, and I was monitored carefully. I stopped taking it because the cure was worse than the condition, in my own case, but obviously some people have to remain on it.

HannaYeah

On a separate note:
Here is what the FDA posted re Hydroxychloroquine:

“ FDA cautions against use of hydroxychloroquine or chloroquine for COVID-19 outside of the hospital setting or a clinical trial due to risk of heart rhythm problems

Close supervision is strongly recommended”

From www.FDA.gov

(Bolding mine)

Many headlines including AlJazeera’s cited up thread just read “FDA warns against the use of Hydroxychloroquine.”

Very different meaning to this when you leave out half of the warning.

Such a perfect example of why I no longer have any trust in the media and prefer to track down original sources of the info myself. I don’t want my news processed and translated. I want to know/read/see exactly what is happening and form my own opinions and conclusions based on that.

Uhh actually the article I posted about the fatalities due to Hydroxychloroquine ( before you mentioned anything about it) was not by Al Jazeera and it quoted the FDA.
Nice try.
And you may be trying to give the impression of being oh so reasonable and not racist but you literally blamed George Soros for the current anti lockdown protests ( which is a right wing anti Semitic conspiracy theory) so again, nice try.

Yesterday @ 11.

Ulver

The FDA warned doctors against prescribing hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine for the treatment of the coronavirus except in hospitals and research studies. The FDA said it was aware of “serious heart problems” associated with the use of the drugs and researchers recently cut a chloroquine study short after patients developed irregular heart beats and nearly two dozen died. Scientists cited a “primary outcome” of death and said the findings should “serve to curb the exuberant use” of the drug. Trump, however, has regularly touted the drugs as a potential “game changer,” saying at one point: “What do you have to lose? I really think they should try it.” (Wall Street Journal / Associated Press / CNBC / Bloomberg / CBS News /Washington Post)

I normally stick to my own little bubble on Twitter, but occasionally venture out to see what the UK Katie Hopkins fan/US MAGA types are "thinking". It's a scary world out there; a conspiracy mindset with a profound lack of critical thinking.

I read Trump's tweet where he announced that it was pointless doing the press conferences because of the hostility of the "Lamestream" media. Then I read the replies.

The total adoration of his fans and the hostility to serious journalists would be funny if it wasn't so dangerous.

I was getting caught up on the news in the WSJ yesterday and I heard that a cheeky, rude, scowling New Yorker (they're the worst of the lot) has been on telly and in the media recently in the UK. It seems he's not too thick to have done rather well on University Challenge and kicked some toff arse in the process.

University Challenge’s US star: the team would have killed it without me

You Brits can rest easy, he's back in New York now, where he fits right in.

Oh those New York bastards!! I am amused when I see people having arguments using American tools such as their personal computers, the internet, and Google to argue that Americans are all stupid. I

How are they 'American tools?' Aside from Google maybe.

Exactly!

I'm not sure who invented the Internet but the world wide web (which we often mean when we talk about the Internet) was invented by Sir Tim Berners-Lee while he was working at CERN in Switzerland, an institute which is the epitome of international cooperation.

Durgasarrow

Oh those New York bastards!! I am amused when I see people having arguments using American tools such as their personal computers, the internet, and Google to argue that Americans are all stupid. I

No one called anyone from New York bastards. You are arguing against yourself.
If anything I am worried about NY citizens being abandoned by their govt during this crisis because they have too many democratic voters and minorities for Trumps liking.

cybercontroller

How are they 'American tools?' Aside from Google maybe.

Exactly 😂😂😂😂

If our culture was the same politically as America, we would have Boris paying organisations to go out and protest lock down in large groups while musing on injecting bleach as a cure for Coronavirus. If you are from the US and are not embarrassed by this then I feel entitled to feel superior!

I also thiink it is a bit strange when people in the UK say that Americans are stupid. Seeing as the majority of white people in the USA are English.

English settlers went over there remember?

@Ulver "feel superior". Now you are really playing into British stereotype.

I presume that we also felt superior when we invaded and took all the land in America.

How can anyone in the Uk feel superior to Americans? You do know the history there right? That British settlers went there and took it over.

So you are calling yourselves stupid!