Fed up of all this nhs heroes worshipping

[lockdowngrinch]

Those working in care homes are amazing. ITU nurses, doctors, administrators, cleaners, porters are incredible. I’ve always thought this pandemic or not. All staff on CV wards I truly admire. And all nhs staff supporting these individuals are brilliant. But heroes? They’re jobs are always admirable pandemic or not. And all others working for the nhs I’m sure there is the odd ‘hero’ amongst them that stand out. But all this mass hero worshipping is now getting on my nerves. Like my neighbour who is currently not doing anything related to CV who films himself during the Thursday clap and personally thanks people on FB. I’m sure there are plenty of true Heroes currently working for the nhs, but to attach that label to all of them is starting to grate now.

So I went into quarrentine with confirmed covid on Tuesday night.

(It's a fucking miserable disease btw)

I've never heard any of the applauses because I've either been working or commuting every Thursday since this all kicked off....

... Until this Thursday, when I could see my neighbors from the bedroom window. I was genuinely moved, reminds me of who we work for.

I agree with that entirely RunningAwayWithTheCircus, to me it smacks of the government breathing a sigh of relief that yet again, their electorate is happily engaged (and distracted) from the lack of meaningful NHS fiscal injections by clapping. Every week. It's no mystery why this needs to be every week. Jangling car keys is what this reminds me of.

Hagisonthehill, your post is utterly terrifying. I truly hope that this virus serves some other purpose resulting in proper funding - and management - of the NHS so that this shit-show never happens again.

YANBU. Agree.

Sadly, runningawaywiththecircus and lyinwitch, and others are absolutely correct.
The nhs is a shit show (at an organizational level, individual staff aren’t relevant here - some are great, some also are shit).
That said, the clapping is performing a very clever anaesthetic function on those who could equally be motivated to be fucking furious at the government. Win win for BoJo.
I mean - there are obviously pros and cons to the clapping.
The collective amnesia and anaesthesia is def a pro for politicians and has very effectively closed down any potential for unrest, but yes, it could be argued that it’s giving people a sense of community and encouraging them to think for the good of the whole (it isn’t really - it’s just diverting people to think they are effecting a ‘blitz spirit’ mentality without having to dig through rubble or actually do anything.) The levels of narcissism and virtue signalling involved are also leading to behaviour policing. It’s a bit panopticon . I mean, why do you need guards and shit if you can convince your own electorate to control each other?
Oo Karen and Trevor haven’t been seen clapping. With us or against us. Evil Karen and Trevor.
Karen and Trevor are probably the ones that could enact actual social and political change if only the sheeples would stop their self congratulating for a moment and wonder.
Who is more dangerous for the future of our country? The ones who are mindlessly following the borg and dutifully popping out onto their steps at the appointed hour, like wee cuckoo clocks, ensuring that social disobedience is punished and that everyone is following the rules? Or the ones who are saying ‘fuck this nonsense - the status quo is a shit show, there is serious fiscal and managerial incompetence everywhere, and as a country we need to actually examine this and deal with incompetence!’
Compliance in this unthinking way is a bit... well, unthinking.
I mean, a global pandemic isn’t the time for the revolution lol, but I despair of any social or political change at all when the government can carry out such a bloody brilliant exercise in controlling both the thoughts and actions of the populace.
Good job, good little soldiers. You keep clapping.

@lockdowngrinch You come across as quite mean and spiteful. I’m sure they’d be ‘heroes’ if they saved your life or the life of your loved ones. But, as I assume it doesn’t affect you directly, you are happy to be sneery.

Slow hand clap.

I watched a video the other day outside a hospital with nurses doctors police and various other people all cheering like peacocks clustered together with no social distances being kept to so now I have no respect for them feel more respect for the supermarket staff

EmbarrassedUser, no, she doesn't. Why are you name-calling? Would you like to to be referred to as thick or a mindless follower? If not then stop doing it yourself.

... and we don't need more clapping, slow or otherwise.

sneakythecat71 - google “sadistic midwifes” or “or midwife struck off.”

www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/health-51180944

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/society/2019/nov/19/leaked-report-exposes-nhs-worst-ever-maternity-scandal-shrewsbury-and-telford-hospital-trust

I was also told “we don’t care about you, it’s the baby that matters.” Like something from the Handmaid’s Tate. And yes, she was struck off.

The problem on here seems to be that there are those who are being a bit more realistic - and some seemingly deliberate / unfortunate misunderstanding. For those genuinely going to work every day on the front line and helping people directly - I take my hat off to you and if the clapping makes you feel appreciated then that's fantastic.

However some just don't think that translates into ALL people who work for the NHS are to be viewed in the same way. Is it 1 million / 1.5 million who work for NHS. That's a lot. Some will be amazing who go way above in all areas, some will be competent and do a good job, some will be counting the clock til hometime. I've had experience with all the above, personally and thru my parents - one of whom was given a terminal cancer diagnosis with a 6 month prognosis in the most unfeeling and uncaring way and another who was chronically ill and who saw the best of the worst of the NHS before her death.

It's ludicrous to think that an organisation that size has a hero at every turn. Hero's in this time come in all different forms from the nurses to the community volunteers to the supermarket staff etc.... they all deserve our thanks

I am not doing the clapping. It is a bit cringey and I don't think many are doing it round here in our semi rural community. I thoroughly support them getting the proper PPE and a decent wage for the job they are doing under very difficult circumstances especially in busy areas. I think many of them are heroes and going above and beyond the call of duty. We are doing our bit by doing as we are told and practising social distancing and observing lockdown rules.

I don't have any issue with others clapping but I wonder at the motives of some people who just want to draw attention to themselves and thoroughly deplore those who clap and ignore the rules like those on Westminster Bridge last Thursday. Makes a mockery of it.

I was a Staff Nurse in A&E then ITU some years ago. I can assure you that the majority of nurses and doctors weren't the angels or heroes that the public see them as. They do a job, some are better than others at it, some are more caring and some just do as little work as they can get away with and collect a salary each month.
In my experience the hidden heroes are the porters, the cleaners in hospitals, the ones when I or my family have been patients have been the kindest. The other heroes are those carers in nursing homes paid a minimum wage to clean a person covered in faeces on a daily basis. Those same carers who are now exposed to covid on a daily basis for £9 an hour ( and with no pep as yet)
Other heroes are people I currently work with, who work with the homeless through this pandemic, who are still spat on, stolen from and verbally abused, yet they still go back each day to try again.

@itoldyouiwasill - agree totally

@biscuitsanddiddums I absolutely agree with so much of what you’ve said.

Technically the nhs and everyone else on the frontline are doing the job they are paid for but they don't normally work in these circumstances. Normally they are not putting their lives on the line every single day. Most of the time the nhs don't even have ppe.
I'm my eyes anyone going to work and putting themselves at risk is a hero.