Fed up of all this nhs heroes worshipping

[lockdowngrinch]

Those working in care homes are amazing. ITU nurses, doctors, administrators, cleaners, porters are incredible. I’ve always thought this pandemic or not. All staff on CV wards I truly admire. And all nhs staff supporting these individuals are brilliant. But heroes? They’re jobs are always admirable pandemic or not. And all others working for the nhs I’m sure there is the odd ‘hero’ amongst them that stand out. But all this mass hero worshipping is now getting on my nerves. Like my neighbour who is currently not doing anything related to CV who films himself during the Thursday clap and personally thanks people on FB. I’m sure there are plenty of true Heroes currently working for the nhs, but to attach that label to all of them is starting to grate now.

Junior doctors seem to go through a public phase of being surprised at the hours and workload before moving up the ladder and becoming wealthy as consultants with private work on the side.

Most doctors aren't very wealthy as consultants even with private work on the side. (They're not badly off but certainly not wealthy).

Fuck it, RunningAwaywiththeCircus, you are my hero

YANBU and I've always thought the same about soldiers/ex-soldiers. The most vocal both with soldiers and the current focus on the NHS also seem to be quite right wing, intolerant and xenophobic in my experience

Most doctors aren't very wealthy as consultants even with private work on the side. (They're not badly off but certainly not wealthy).

Starting salary of £80k according to the BMA for NHS work.

Thank you @RunningAwaywiththeCircus for being the voice of reality.

I worked in NHS finance and supply chain and all that gubbins for years. There are so many in that system that are wilfully deaf to anything that could mean “more admin” and the Organisation has dodged disaster for years.

I’m also so tired of the WELL IF YOU’RE NOT FOR THEM YOU’RE AGAINST THEM and WHAT DO YOU WANT IT TO BE LIKE? AMERICA?

no there are so many other health systems that will cater for you if you are ill regardless of income or status - it’s not the NHS model or nothing FFS.

I agree with you OP. YANBU.

Grinch indeed

Frontline staff are literally risking their own lives every single shift to save the lives of others
That's heroic

Some people on both the left and the right are so blinded by politics that the applause for the NHS annoys them
Some people just hate others to be praised
Some people just want us all to wallow in misery

The problem with making people into heroes is it lets those in charge off the hook. No one should have to be a hero daily in the course of their job. If they do, the powers that be have failed in their duty to protect them.

Heroifying world war one soldiers who suffered appallingly is the same thing. Were they heroes? No not in most cases - they were misled, had no choice, were appalling treated and their goodwill abused. Making them heroes somehow absolved the government from taking proper responsibility. Being badly treated by your employer does not make someone a hero! Of course there were large numbers who did take heroic actions. But that is not the same thing.

Clapping and free stuff is all very well - but not if it becomes an alternative to a properly funded NHS where staff are not overworked and are provided with correct PPE. The only people with the power to make this change is the government. I haven't heard them promising to thank the heroic NHS by investing in the service and stockpiling PPE to ensure this never happens again. That is where the hypocrisy lies. Ordinary people then people then become a pawn to this by supporting the narrative that clapping is actually useful.

Runningaway The Daily Mail will have a field day with your story. They love a DNACPR angle. Your DH is aware that you’ve posted about it on a public forum?

The thing is it’s a non-issue. Quite rightly any suggestion of clapping is not compulsory.

The “oh I’m so against the hero” rhetoric is as tiresome and pointless as the virtue signallers who share videos of them clapping.

@RunningAwaywiththeCircus

I don't think people are clapping for your husband sitting on his arse, counting his PPE and money, doing fuck all for anyone.

Runningaway why did you ask for your post to br deleted? Making shit up OR realising you and your ‘DH’ dropped a huge clanger in terms of patient confidentiality? Daily Mail messaged you already ?
Class. What a hero

I think its amazing what the frontline workers are doing but the term heros does grate a bit. As a mental health professional I did 15 or so years in the frontline...it was risky, relentless and thankless. Mental health wards are having a v rough time currently, last on the list for ppe and delayed discharges having to cope with increasingly agitated, anxious and psychotic patients, this situation is proving to exacerbate pre existing conditions and even reverse treatment gains.

What's concerning me slightly as well is there's lots of very emotional posts on social media often swearing, accusatory etc from stressed out drs and nurses who are clearly and understandably really frightened and distressed by the whole situation.

However it's not great to be so divulging on social media I feel...and dare I say it there's a hint of martyr type behaviour about it. One dr was particularly unprofessional, her language was stocking. Despite this horrible situation we're still professionals and part of the conditions of our registration is to uphold our professions even when not at work in terms of our behaviour..Not saying be an "angel" but some posts I've seen the nmc would have a field day over.

Runningaway is giving a very realistic account IME. I also agree with PP who is horrified with some of the posts on SM by so called professionals.

I wish people would just show their appreciation and not make a big thing of it and show their appreciation all the time. If you do something and then make a big thing of it, you're doing it for the praise that you're going to get. How many of those clapping will be making about the NHS when this has all passed.

Also show your appreciate for everyone out there working, there are hundreds of people still working and it just shows that it takes a lot of people doing different jobs to keep things running and I dont think people realise what has to happen behind the scenes

Anything that improves morale can not be overstated. I think the tension comes between people whos routine hasn't changed Vs those whose life has changed beyond recognition for the worse. Brother works in a hospital (non covid department) goes to work, then Tesco, walks the dog, goes home cracks open a tin. He said his life has essentially not changed other than more PPE. Fewer patients too with clinics seeing urgent only. My partner is furloughed and happy in his garden drinking beer. He's happy enough. My parents however previously active with travel and hobbies and friends are stuck indoors trying to get delivery slots, doing precisely what they've been told, terrified, high levels of anxiety and struggling to get through each day. We were saying on the phone that they deserve a clap but won't get one! They are more likely to get scolded in fact, if they dare to go to the corner shop or allotment. I just want them all to stay alive. It's differently awful for everyone. I think cracks show when we feel we aren't heard or aren't important.

@whatever. Same here. Apparently my trust had 700 empty beds last week! And I must remember to take a book to read for my night shifts. I feel a total fraud!

If they're not heroes I don't know who is.

I think the NHS hero message misses out private care workers, my friend is doing home care for a private company and goes into multiple homes every day with no PPE.

My other friend works in a home with seriously disabled adults who are very vulnerable to Covid-19, again with no PPE.

I also disagree with NHS workers getting discounts, they will be in secure jobs and so many people struggling financially right now.

I believe you Running. Absolutely