Fed up of all this nhs heroes worshipping

[lockdowngrinch]

Those working in care homes are amazing. ITU nurses, doctors, administrators, cleaners, porters are incredible. I’ve always thought this pandemic or not. All staff on CV wards I truly admire. And all nhs staff supporting these individuals are brilliant. But heroes? They’re jobs are always admirable pandemic or not. And all others working for the nhs I’m sure there is the odd ‘hero’ amongst them that stand out. But all this mass hero worshipping is now getting on my nerves. Like my neighbour who is currently not doing anything related to CV who films himself during the Thursday clap and personally thanks people on FB. I’m sure there are plenty of true Heroes currently working for the nhs, but to attach that label to all of them is starting to grate now.

The admin staff in payroll are paying the docs and nurses (you think they'd work for free?)
But the admin staff are just doing their job. Many will be working from home so will be at no more risk than anyone else in the population.

I agree OP, there will be many individuals who have gone above the call of duty but this collective hero worship is weird. Quite a few staff are embarrassed by the attention.

@mamabears3 actually you do sound like a hero inside and outside of your job.

If we truly believe that NHS staff are heroes then we should do more than clap.

Next time you vote, don’t vote Tory.

Don’t call an ambulance because you have a bit of a sniffle.

Don’t abuse healthworkers.

Don’t be racist towards them.

Don’t abuse our health service.

Is there not a weirdness to this situation where every Thursday we lean out our front door and clap merrily whilst we send our healthcare workers like lambs to the slaughter, with insufficient equipment (that apparently they are wasting!), inadequate pay, and no mental health care to help them once this is all over.

They were heroes before and no one gave a shit. Least of all our government.

If you want to clap then do. But make sure that when this is all over you continue thinking they’re heroes and you vote and petition etc in line with that.

Lovelydream I’ve seen this point being made time and time again and it’s starting to boil my piss. I have MANY nursing colleagues whose husbands or wives have been furloughed or lost their jobs. I rely on maintenance from my Ex husband to support my kids. He’s stopped paying it. Many healthcare workers are still feeling a financial impact on top of everything else.

They are hero's just look at the 28 year old pregnant nurse that died this week saving lives.i agree all this clapping bollocks is getting tedious people should put their energy into other shit. And yes the facebook videos are cringe it's like "well done Karen you clapped" now stop having your grandma round everyday.

@lovelydream oh waw. You want them to come rushing to save ur loved ones when they fall sick, yet crying over bloody 10% that wont get them their lives back if they lose it fighting to save ur family.

That's disgusting and petty.

I work for the NHS, in the labs so we’re kind of the invisible front line as we’re testing for COVID 19. Although I do think the hero thing can get a bit much some times, I also think it’s important for those involved in the clapping and making rainbow signs etc to feel involved. They’re getting something out of the sense of community it brings, and the idea that everyone is supporting the NHS heroes together.

There has been so much positive coverage around Captain Tom and what he’s done for the NHS and that kind of optimism is needed right now. I’ll take the misplaced hero worship (I really am just showing up to do my job, like I do whether there’s a pandemic on or not) if it makes other people feel better and feel involved in the effort. I have to say, it does bring a smile to my face to know that we’re appreciated though. I go out and clap for my colleagues, and it’s nice to see so many others out on my street too.

I recently bought a man working the till at my supermarket a nice bottle of wine

No way, does anyone's do this? Really? Do they look at you like you're mad?

They are heroes OP, but also are the shop-workers, postmen, delivery drivers etc etc etc., and unfortunately they rarely get a mention, which is very wrong.

I recently bought a man working the till at my supermarket a nice bottle of wine. Same for my bin men. Why? What do you do? Oh come on OP

Really? Do they look at you like you're mad?

Not in the slightest

I’ve shopped at the same small supermarket since it opened always at the same time, I know most of the staff.

They were really grateful. Not sure about the OP but I didn’t do it with a big song and dance, just slipped it over to them.

Emerge with a job ? You mean apart from the ones who are dead or possibly long term sick. Here we have backlash already. That didn't take long. Thank you. I'll be sure to pass it along to my sick colleague whose husband and daughter are also sick. Very few of us have taken advantage of any of these offers or discounts. We're not looking for thanks but it would be nice not to be pissed on both figuratively and physically. I wonder how long it'll take Mr Mogg to call us gold digging again with gold plated pensions. I'm thinking a couple of months after this shit show is over. I'm sure the tabloids will be laying it on thick as well. I'm off at the moment with an unrelated issue. I go back at the height of the peak, I'm being assessed for redeployment to a different front line. I'm scared enough as it without this bollocks as well.

@LolaDarkdestroyer I don’t in any way want to undermine her tragic death but the pregnant nurse was on maternity leave and hadn’t been near a hospital for over a month. I’m sure she was a dedicated nurse though.

If people just stopped the abuse and threats in healthcare settings, I would be happy.

I think supermarket staff, bin men posties, bus/tube/train drivers are also fabulous
Ok - what have you done to thank them?

Literally that, I've thanked them, tried not to make their job any more shite than they already are. These are often thankless invisible jobs at the best of times. At least 26 TFL workers have now died.

@lovelydream Again, you're making out that only frontline staff are worthy of recognition (in the way of shop discount). Right now, there are no non essential NHS staff. Everyone plays a part in the pandemic. That might be in the way of preventative care to reduce people coming into hospital or rehabilitation to get people out of hospital and help patient flow or making sure the hospital is clean to prevent staff and patients getting other infections which would reduce resources against CV or the admin staff who pay everyone and sort all the background stuff to keep things ticking along.

There is currently no such thing as non essential NHS staff. Lots of people have been redployed to jobs completely outside of their contracted role to help because their own departments are running restricted services.

My friend was a speech therapy assistant and is now redployed in a role where she is driving CV patients around the region either home or hospital to hospital. Yet the badge she flashes to the supermarket staff to get access to the NHS hour each Sunday still says she's 'just' a speech therapy assistant.

Right now you have no idea who is putting themselves at greatest risk because so many people are doing jobs they weren't doing three or four weeks ago!

Also, Blue Light was a scheme offering every nhs and emergency service worker various retail discounts way before CV - regardless if they were clinical or non clinical, a porter or a consultant. Discounts for NHS isn't a new thing it's just that more companies are jumping on the bandwagon for PR and the general public is more aware of it.

I think supermarket staff, bin men posties, bus/tube/train drivers are also fabulous

Ok - what have you done to thank them?
Staying at home is all the thanking you need to do. There's still a handful of people using public transport who needn't be. A BTP PCSO I spoke to at work the other day intercepted a young woman who had travelled 60 miles to see her boyfriend and was now halfway on her way back. She was made to leave the train, given a £30 fine for breach of CV19 regulations, and will also be prosecuted for not having a ticket, just to reinforce the message. No messing around with warnings any more. Our security guards have come across plenty of non-essential travel like that, along with drug runners and other ne'er do wells. Bus drivers have really been at the sharp end through all this too. Stay at home, it's all you need to do as far as we are concerned.

I have so much admiration for the individuals working for the nhs as well as so many others risking themselves. However, I haven't been able to join the applause. 5 weeks ago, my husband died from cancer. He was so badly let down by the nhs. He suffered from ms, and when he began to show signs of illness, that was what was blamed. The pain he was suffering was indescribable. Yet no one looked beyond the ms. It was brushed aside and he was put in a nursing home with dementia patients, with the lie that he was being sent for rehabilitation. He was 47! There was no rehabilitation and he was left there for 5 weeks while is undiagnosed cancer spread. So yes, I have much admiration for the front line individuals of the nhs. But as far as the people who made that fateful decision are concerned...they will never have anything.

People whinging about the NHS staff getting discount in shops are obviously oblivious to the Blue Light Card which has enabled them, and others, to have discount in many outlets for years. We've got a Defence Discount Card and use it for military discount wherever we can. It's a perk of DH's job. Everyone would use it if it was offered.

DS2 is a nurse. He's had to phone families to say that their relative is going to die but they can't come in. He's promised they won't die alone, and they're haven't. He's seen horrendous things over the past few weeks. He's not always had the right PPE, he's not had breaks and has worked extra shifts because staff still aren't getting tested so are at home self isolating. He's worn out physically and emotionally. He's still going into work each day and giving it his all as is every single person in the hospital.

All these threads moaning about the NHS staff are getting pretty boring, but at least they're giving teachers a break, hey?

Stay at home, it's all you need to do as far as we are concerned

I’m going out once a fortnight to shop, nothing else. I can’t really do much more staying home than that!

I’m also following the directions that online slots should be left for customers who need them and shopping in store where possible.

I think what they do is either “admirable, brave and determined”. If I had the savings of a consultant and children at home, I would probably be tempted to hand notice and bear the brunt of the pandemic in the comfort of my own home (pretty much like all of us are comfortably doing even without that level of savings) so, yes, that is heroic.

With regards to non medical staff, honestly, who do you think free the hands of medical staff to concentrate on saving people? They may not be fighting the virus with their own hands but they are at a higher risk of contagion, same goes for carers as is impossible for them to care for their charges while maintaining social distancing advice.

Personally I think there are even more heroes than in the NHS, main key workers keeping the circus going are the truck drivers, without them we would be scavenging something to eat in our own gardens.

Well, they're doing more than me so I'm happy enough to clap them. Frontline workers I know are working hard, gruelling shifts trying to save lives, losing a lot of people and breaking news to families, all in sweaty PPE ( when they have it) and masks and aprons ( putting them at risk) when they don't. They do have the option to say 'fuck it' I'm not doing this, it's hard and I'm worried I'm going to infect my family but they aren't. So they're heroic compared to me.

It's ok op. I understand you're scared and that's making you behave in such an unpleasant way. If you need hospital care the staff who take you up to the isolation ward won't mind your grumbles. The cleaner who scrubs the lift won't mind. The nurse who receives you in to the ward won't mind. The lab staff who run your test won't mind. The doctor who works out what o2 sats you need won't mind. The technician who fixed the cpap machine and the bed you're lying in won't mind. The manager who plans the resources, the buyer who tries to restock, the catering assistant who gets your food, the hca who cleans you up and tells you it's ok, the clerk who processes your details, the finance manger who authorises the pay won't mind. None of them will be remotely bothered about your grumbles because they are busy right now. But you will mind, you really will.

I found @Whatevah 's post interesting.
We know a number of people in the medical profession who have said the same thing.
Also our local GP surgery which under normal circumstances is so busy if you can get an appointment within 3 or 4 weeks it's a bloody miracle, is dead. The amount of time wasting appointments must be phenomenal.

It's ok op. I understand you're scared and that's making you behave in such an unpleasant way

Congratulations for the most passive aggressive comment ever!