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So what the fuck are Kate and Willy doing?

999 replies

RogueV · 17/04/2020 22:39

Isn’t there a princess in Europe that’s now working as a HCA?

A queen somewhere in Asia cooking for the poor?

Harry and Meghan delivering meals?

Bet if Diana was here she’d be out doing everything in her power to help the ordinary folk 💪

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LaurieMarlow · 23/04/2020 08:19

Prince Louis is cute yes. But there are many, many cute two year olds out there. Why people go nuts for this one, I’m not too sure. 🤷‍♀️

Mamamia456 · 23/04/2020 08:22

Laurie - Of course there are, not sure what your point is really.

Sweetdreamer93 · 23/04/2020 08:24

Perhaps look at what YOU’RE doing.

Mamamia456 · 23/04/2020 08:29

Wolfgirrl - Many people in life get a job through family connections. Quite often in the world of employment it's not what you know but who you know.

twirlycat77 · 23/04/2020 08:30

Louis won’t put a smile on my face anymore than any other two year old would. He’s cute, but he’s no better than any other two year old.

Baconisgoodformeee · 23/04/2020 08:43

No ‘better’ in what respect? How would any 2 year old be ‘better’ than all the others exactly?

LaurieMarlow · 23/04/2020 08:47

Perhaps look at what YOU’RE doing.

For gods sake RTT

Mamamia456 · 23/04/2020 08:59

Twirlycat77 - Has anybody said he would?
He's 2 tomorrow, there's not that many photos of him that get published in newspapers, so of course the press are going to be interested in them. They know that many people will buy the newspaper because they enjoy looking at the photos. If it makes people happy to see the smiling face of 2 year old Prince Louis there's nothing wrong with that.

FGS - No one's forcing you to look at them!

LaurieMarlow · 23/04/2020 09:02

Well there’s obviously something going on, if one two year old gets a cut of the SG and all the others don’t.

I’m all for flooding the media with pics of two year olds. But the fuss over one in particular is strange as he’s just the same as all the others.

StoneofDestiny · 23/04/2020 09:08

Wolfgirrl
His jaunt wasn’t the first or last
using the helicopter.

Prince William was under fire again after it emerged that he had landed his £10million RAF helicopter in girlfriend Kate Middleton's back garden during an official military exercise
Miss Middleton and her parents are said to have watched in delight as the second in line to the throne practised a series of take-offs and landings in the paddock of their sprawling detached home in Bucklebury, Berkshire, earlier this month. Details of the two-hour stunt emerged just days after the prince was heavily criticised for using another Chinook to fly himself and his brother Harry to a stag weekend on the Isle of Wight. Scroll down for more ... {4} {R} The revelations have raised questions about the way in which the RAF has allowed the prince to fit his "intensive" four-month training course around his social life. As well as his cousin's stag do, William has had time off to go on a boozy boys-only surfing weekend in Cornwall and a week's holiday ski-ing in the Swiss alps with his girlfriend. The RAF has repeatedly refused requests by the Mail to confirm how much Wiliam's attachment has cost taxpayers, arguing that it would take too much manpower to sit down and work the figures out. The incident is understood to have taken place on April 3 during the final part of the course - codenamed Golden Kestrel - designed to allow army officer William, who one day will become head of the armed forces, to "familiarise" himself with the role of the RAF. It has also, conveniently, afforded him the opportunity of learning to fly, something that the prince has long desired to do.RAF sources told the News of the World that, William, 25, himself came up with the idea of taking the helicopter to Berkshire, claiming there was a shortage of landing spots at RAF Odiam in Hampshire where he was based for part of his attachment. After the plan was approved by his instructors, the prince flew the 16 miles to Miss Middleton's family home where he completed one circuit of the field at the back of her parents' million-pound house and practised landing and taking off in their paddock. He then piloted the helicopter back to Odiham for further tuition. The entire operation is estimated to have cost around £30,000. Nick Harvey, Liberal Democrat Defence spokesman, yesterday described the "jaunt" as major mistake, saying: "The prince will look back on this and realise it was a PR own goal. "It's going to leave a lot of people wondering where the sense of priority lies if very serious helicopters are being made available for this sort of thing at a time when they are in such extreme need." Scroll down for more. It has also angered RAF top brass who had been savouring the "fabulous" publicity that William's attachment to the force had brought in this, their 90th anniversary year. Pictures of the Prince of Wales awarding his son his wings at RAF Cranwell in Lincolnshire, watched by Miss Middleton, on April 11 made front pages around the world. The head of the RAF, Air Chief Marshal Sir Glenn Torpy, is said to have "erupted" with rage at the "sheer stupidity" of the situation and is said to have demanded a "line-by-line" explanation from subordinates. One senior RAF source told the Mail yesterday: "William hasn't done anything wrong but the naivety of those around him in allowing him to make these flights without forseeing the potential problems they could cause is astonishing. "I think there has been a bit of royal fever here." Scroll down for more ... {6} A Ministry of Defence spokesman yesterday defended its decision to allow William to land the Chinook in the Middletons' field, however, saying: "Battlefield helicopters routinely practice landing in fields and confined spaces away from their airfields as a vital part of their training for operations. "These highly honed skills are used daily in conflict zones such as iraq and Afghanistan. "The sortie on April 3 was fully authorised and planned and was an agreed part of Prince William's attachment to the RAF." Their statement failed to aknowledge the fact that the future king is unlikely to ever see active service in a war zone, however. He is due to be deployed with the Royal Navy in June for three months and will leave the army in January next year to become a full-time working royal. Last week it emerged that after getting his much-coveted wings William flew a Chinook to London and landed at Woolwich, where he picked up his brother and fellow army officer Harry. They then flew to the Isle of Wight where their cousin Peter Phillips, the son of Princess Anne, was enjoying a weekend-long stag party. The flight enabled them to spend an extra five hours touring the pubs of Cowes where at one point rowdy revellers pulled down William's trousers. Eyewitness also claimed the two princes dared girls in one pub to bare their breasts and partied into the early hours with a number of attractive young woman including a local lap dancer named Gigi La Chance. The RAF insisted the jaunt was "legitimate training" by teaching the prince to fly over water, but MPs demanded to know why the young royals were allowed to use the Chinook aircraft as a "stag do taxi service". Critics pointed out that British troops in Afghanistan are critically short of the helicopters. Only around ten are available to commanders in Afghanistan, who privately complain that operations are constantly hamstrung by a lack of helicopters. Aviation analyst and RAF-trained pilot Jon Lake described the latest incident as "ridiculous and inappropriate". "This is an absolute waste of training hours in the Chinook helicopter that the military are hard-pressed to afford. No other pilot at Prince William's stage of training would be allowed anywhere near the left-hand seat of Chinook," he said. "It's like a learner driver being given the keys to a Formula One car just because his father owns the racing team." In December 2005 the Mail revealed how William flew from Anglesey, where he was enjoying a week's mountain rescue training, in a Hawk jet so he could collect his army boots the following day. Clarence House declined to comment on the latest row

twirlycat77 · 23/04/2020 09:14

t many people will buy the newspaper because they enjoy looking at the photos. If it makes people happy to see the smiling face of 2 year old Prince Louis there's nothing wrong with that.

There’s plenty wrong with that. He’s an ordinary child, anyone that gets more pleasure looking at his pictures because he’s royal is odd.

twirlycat77 · 23/04/2020 09:18

No ‘better’ in what respect? How would any 2 year old be ‘better’ than all the others exactly?

Exactly, they aren’t.

LaurieMarlow · 23/04/2020 09:21

Exactly, they aren’t.

And yet that’s where the paradox of this all lies.

They clearly aren’t ‘better’, yet where’s the justification to shower them with such privilege?

twirlycat77 · 23/04/2020 09:21

Wolfgirl - Many people in life get a job through family connections. Quite often in the world of employment it's not what you know but who you know

We aren’t talking about other people. We’re talking about the taxpayer funded royal family.

twirlycat77 · 23/04/2020 09:27

www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/100million-to-guard-21-royals-around-234485

Just look at the cost of protecting them and how many...

twirlycat77 · 23/04/2020 09:30

Each royal has five each. Shock

LaMarschallin · 23/04/2020 09:38

StoneofDestiny
If I hadn't forgotten my MN password, I'd be sorely tempted to change my name here to
"Gigi La Chance".

LaurieMarlow · 23/04/2020 09:39

That’s damning reading stone

notimagain · 23/04/2020 09:54

That’s damning reading stone

An "RAF-trained pilot" I know says on paper it doesn't look good, but it might just have been possible to justify the flights if you can make them a "fit" for something that was already in the training syllabus (e.g. "Cross country of more than x miles" "land away" or "off airfield landings") and therefore the events described didn't actually add to the cost of the course...

Now whether he should have done that course or not is another matter..

People didn't seem to be considering the cost involved when they were calling for him to start working as a HEMS pilot not that long ago.

LaurieMarlow · 23/04/2020 10:02

and therefore the events described didn't actually add to the cost of the course

Yeah, I’m sure that’s the case 🙄

when they were calling for him to start working as a HEMS pilot not that long ago.

Doesn’t matter, there was a list as long as your arm why he couldn’t possibly anyway. Including, I think, that his license wasn’t current.

Wolfgirrl · 23/04/2020 10:02

@Mamamia456

Theyve released a few photos of Louis to distract from the fact they're doing absolutely nothing. After all, nobody is going to say anything bad about a child. My little girl brings smiles to the faces of people that come over to say hello and look in the pram, doesn't mean we deserve £85 million of taxpayers money a year.

You keep banging on comparing the royals to other regular rich/posh people. Are you able to understand the royals are taxpayer funded head of state and other rich posh people are not? Or does this point just go way over your head?

StoneofDestiny · 23/04/2020 10:14

La Marschalkin .......and I'd change the royal badge to

la famille royale prend la pisse

StoneofDestiny · 23/04/2020 10:17

notimagain

It's a piss take of mammoth proportions! No other RAF trainee would have been allowed any of that latitude. Seriously - it's unjustifiable on every level.

LaMarschallin · 23/04/2020 10:21

Wolfgirrl

Theyve released a few photos of Louis to distract from the fact they're doing absolutely nothing.

I suppose it will thrill some royalists: "Aww.. look at his little regal face!".

And, although it doesn't actually benefit anybody, it's marginally better than just a black & white closeup of his paint-smeared hand, which could look just like your average toddler's dirty protest.

Doubtless publications everywhere are going in heavy on the use of "adorable", "cute", "melts hearts" and the innovative "heart-meltingly, adorably cute".
They must have stronger stomachs than I do.

twirlycat77 · 23/04/2020 10:22

Releasing those pics of their son was a very clever PR move. Fortunately a lot of us can see it for what it is. They really do think we’re stupid.