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So what the fuck are Kate and Willy doing?

999 replies

RogueV · 17/04/2020 22:39

Isn’t there a princess in Europe that’s now working as a HCA?

A queen somewhere in Asia cooking for the poor?

Harry and Meghan delivering meals?

Bet if Diana was here she’d be out doing everything in her power to help the ordinary folk 💪

OP posts:
Wolfgirrl · 19/04/2020 21:29

@Alsohuman

Why are you trying to deflect to the Beckhams?

This thread isnt about which is better, the royals or the Beckhams. They're irrelevant.

Mamamia456 · 19/04/2020 21:32

Leighhalfpenny - You really don't have a clue do you?

LaMarschallin · 19/04/2020 21:32

Mamamia456

LaMarschallin - I would imagine the majority of people in their 90s do. In fact most people in their 90s would struggle to even step in to the bath unaided.

I have relatives in their 80s who need help with bathing, what's wrong with that?

Nothing. I'm all for people having help with bathing if they need it. Not sure there needs to be a special thermometer (most people just wiggle a hand in the water) or the depth measured.
I just think it's unlikely that most 80/90 year olds automatically get that help. And some have found it difficult to obtain or afford.

So, you think the queen was at least able to run her own bath in her 20s to 30s at least? And that there wasn't a maid doing it for her?

OhMargo · 19/04/2020 21:33

Back to the parasitic RF. What the F are they doing for us?

They don't care, and many are not going to challenge them. But we pay for them don't we? and what do we get in return?

Sick of them now. But I wouldn't swop my life for theirs ever.

Mamamia456 · 19/04/2020 21:34

76% think the OP is being unreasonable.
Interesting!

Alsohuman · 19/04/2020 21:35

A) it’s not a hobby business, educate yourself

It’s always made a loss. Sounds like the definition of a hobby business to me.

)B) an unprecedented number of businesses are seeking government help in the most challenging times we’ve ever seen. Is trying to save people’s jobs a bad thing now?

It is when its owners have a personal fortune of £360 million. Surely they should use their own money to save their staff’s jobs?

CathyorClaire · 19/04/2020 21:36

They’re trying to take taxpayer’s money to shore up her hobby business. What’s the difference?

VB's business has been propped up by DB for donkey's years so yeah, I'd broadly agree with the hobby assessment. I think it's pretty poor she's trying to furlough staff although she's no different or any less reprehensible than any other multi millionaire business person trying to do the same.

The difference is in the length of time and the smoke and mirrors involved. The royals have been taking the taxpayer forever and we can't get full transparency on the nitty gritty.

Wolfgirrl · 19/04/2020 21:38

Why are we discussing the beckhams? They're irrelevant to this thread.

@Mamamia456 76% and yet not a single reasonable argument!

LaurieMarlow · 19/04/2020 21:38

It is when its owners have a personal fortune of £360 million. Surely they should use their own money to save their staff’s jobs?

Do you understand the difference between private and company money? Clearly not. It doesn’t work like that.

But if you’re going down this route, given the queens personal private fortune, why can’t she pay her own staff to save tax payer’s money?

LaurieMarlow · 19/04/2020 21:39

But yes wolf is right. The Beckhams are just whatabbouttery to distract from the topic in hand. Enough.

Alsohuman · 19/04/2020 21:47

Yes, of course they’re whataboutery. Let’s change the subject now your argument’s been soundly trounced Laurie.

LaurieMarlow · 19/04/2020 21:49

Let’s change the subject now your argument’s been soundly trounced

Lol Grin

Died laughing.

Back to the royals. Got any further justification for Wills sitting on his arse?

Alsohuman · 19/04/2020 21:54

Nope I’m done. There’s no point in attempting to do this again with the usual suspects on this thread. Nothing will change anybody’s mind. Any discussion is an utter waste of time. I’ll leave you to your echo chamber.

Rosebel · 19/04/2020 21:56

I'm even less interested in the Beckham's than the royal family.
I think they Queen, Princess Anne and Sophie work hard but the rest of them useless. Kate and William are two of the worst. They just have no idea of what normal people are going through but pretend they do. To me that's really annoying and insulting. I wouldn't mind self isolating in a 10 bedroom house with a swimming pool, tennis courts and staff to do everything including look after the children.
Yeah tough life!

KarmaStar · 19/04/2020 22:02

Goading and rude thread.

Leighhalfpennysthigh · 19/04/2020 22:04

Leighhalfpenny - You really don't have a clue do you

That the best you can do? Where's the well crafted argument about how this family enrich our country.

One can only conclude that yiu have none because their isn't one.

Wolfgirrl · 19/04/2020 22:06

@Alsohuman

Theres no point because you have no arguments. All you have done on this thread is talk about the Beckhams and the fact you draw a pension. Both irrelevant.

Wolfgirrl · 19/04/2020 22:11

@Alsohuman I dont know if posters on here realise but comparing the subject at hand to something worse (eg the royals to the beckhams) is not an argument. It's called the 'not as bad as' rationale.

It's like me saying rear ending your car is fine, because it isnt as bad as me actually running over somebody. It is nonsensical and a sign of a poor argument.

Mamamia456 · 19/04/2020 22:21

LaMarschallin - Not sure where you've got the thermometer from! I very much doubt she would have run her own bath, she is the Queen afterall. I thought that was the whole point of having a lady's maid, to do everything for you. I personally would hate it, but I suppose if that's how you have been brought up then you would see it as normal.

Mamamia456 · 19/04/2020 22:24

Leighhalfpenny - You compared the Queen's daily schedule to someone sorting out photos on a computer, so no you don't have a clue.

Leighhalfpennysthigh · 19/04/2020 22:26

- You compared the Queen's daily schedule to someone sorting out photos on a computer, so no you don't have a clue

True. Sorting out photos is much harder.

Btw my nearly 90 year old father runs his own bath everyday.

Leighhalfpennysthigh · 19/04/2020 22:31

@Mamamia456 insulting me does not deflect from the fact that you have no argument for why we should pay for that bunch of parasites.

So do stop, there's a dear.

Mamamia456 · 19/04/2020 22:40

Leighhalfpenny - Well good for your father if he is able to do that, but many elderly people can't.

I haven't insulted you, I just said you didn't have a clue, and to say that sorting out photos is harder than what the queen does is just being silly.

Leighhalfpennysthigh · 19/04/2020 22:50

Still no constructive argument I see.

twirlycat77 · 19/04/2020 23:48

If what the queen does was hard you can rest assured she wouldn’t be doing it, and no one would blame her. She lives a life of unimaginable ease, has the best health care, servants, chefs, dressers etc. It isn’t hard work what she does, as with everything she does in life, all the hard work and preparation is done by others, she gets the nice easy bit at the end.