To think that a lot of people secretly resent the presence of "Chinese" people

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DH, of Chinese ethnicity, was returning home from work one afternoon, walking through a once busy part of town. As he socially distanced past the only person in sight she began racially abusing him that people like him had brought the virus into the country . He said that initially he was aghast before telling her to "fuck right off". She may not have expected such a retort as she hurried off without a response.
I do get the sense that there is unspoken hostility toward people of Chinese ethnicity here.

My most racist friend by far is Thai. She hates black people, Indians, and now seemingly the Chinese (although to be fair I'm not sure she liked them before).

She's saying she won't let them in her restaurant when it reopens. 😂 I suspect she may change her tune if her business recovers.

I live in Scotland and there's no issues with Chinese take aways being open, we've had two! It would be a cold day in hell before I'd give up getting a Chinese take away. I take people as they are as a person, not as a race or anything. I'm angry at China for the way they handled this situation though, why wouldn't anyone be? That's the government though, not the citizens. The government handled it badly. As far as I can see from reading, the citizens of China complied and did really well with the lockdown. So if the government then deal with this animal abuse issue and wet markets properly, I would imagine the citizens of China will comply with that too. Some citizens do it because it's allowed or unregulated, others are disgusted by it. There's mass groups of people in China that campaign against a lot of these festivals and consumption of live animals and things. They are as disgusted as some of us are. At the end of the day though, it's the authorities that need to deal with it. There's also a lot of other nationalities travelling to China to take part in some of these masaacres and experience wet markets so it's not only Chinese people that are to blame.

I hope a huge lesson is learnt in China but also all around the world. China isn't the only country guilty of eating strange and exotic animals that haven't been vetted before consumption but yes, they are the biggest country that does it due to their large population

Oh that's hilarious @CurrentBun1981

Can't imagine why you're friends with such an ignorant bigot...

I noticed that the person 2 doors down from me on my street didn't come out on either occasions to clap. Odd because I know she still lives there and I see her walking her dog pretty much every day. I'll be checking again tonight and if I don't see her I think I'll be having a word, there's no excuse for not showing up 3 times in a row

You are on your high horse on here about racism KathyBriggs360, but with this post you show who YOU are (clue - rhymes with Punt)

I am a quarter Spanish and whenever I told anybody they would ask me if I needed a pillow to lie down in the afternoon. So please don't tell me, a minority a quarter Spanish makes you a minority?!

Good luck with the rest of your trolling KathyBriggs360

@Salene your post is one of the most racist on this thread.

Pretty shocking to tar an entire nation of people with the same brush just because you have seen a couple of videos of markets with poor hygiene. Even before you get to the fact that any food business in the UK will have to adhere to the food standards set by the authorities and will be inspected.

@Veterinari

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I do find it interesting, though, the way that 'chlorinated chicken' gained such traction amongst the left in the UK (during the Brexit days), and now we're now told that it's racist to question the wet markets and animal welfare standards in general.

I think it's possible that had covid19 originated in a western country (let's say the US for the sake of argument), the discussion would be quite different.

CurrentBun1981 The Thai friend is your "most racist friend". You make a point of befriending only racists? You are the company you keep.

It is not racist to question the wet markets of China- it is not racist to be furious at their government for not sorting these out after SARs.
It is racist to speak badly of/ to Chinese people based on the above.

I'm so sorry that your family is experiencing this kind of crap. Unfortunately there's a lot of mean minded red-top reading ignoramuses out there.

We don't all feel like that

DH is a key worker and working on shift these days. He is from China but have been living in Uk for more than 15 years. Since the pandemic, one of his colleagues has asked him if Chinese people eat Panda as well. This made him so furious and embarrassed. For those who have never been to China, we have 1.4 billion population. So those 'cat and dog' eating culture are seeing as most cruel and inhuman behaviors by millions and millions of ordinary Chinese people, it is just very unfortunate we have a big population, some extreme stupid and cruel people should be held accountable for these. Lots of my DH friends think the law should be made very serious on those wild animals trading and eating criminals. I.e ten or more years in prison. But the fact of increasing racist towards “Chinese looking people” does make me sad and worrying, especially for my DC.

I do find it interesting, though, the way that 'chlorinated chicken' gained such traction amongst the left in the UK (during the Brexit days)

Did it?? @MarginalGain

To my mind pro Brexit trade deals with the USA are primarily supported by more right wing policies. Us lefties are more inclined to consider the ecological and welfare impacts of such policies and prefer to align with existing EU policies that protect human rights, animal welfare, and the environment.

Agreed Veterinari, my point was that the 'chlorinated chicken' meme gained such traction amongst the left as shorthand for 'the US has low animal welfare standards so let's not do a trade deal'.

The Thai friend is your "most racist friend". You make a point of befriending only racists? You are the company you keep.

Well, it's a bit of a dilemma that my most 'racist' friends are of a different ethnicity to me. So I must be an ethnically sympathetic racist I guess? 🤔

I have several Sikh friends from work and a Pakistani mate that I train Thai boxing with. Both sides are extremely racist toward the other from my observations, and when I bumped into my training buddy on a lunchbreak my Sikh workmates wouldn't even acknowledge him. Some of my Polish workmates who I'm friendly enough with have also surprised me with their racist comments about other races too.

Then there's my elderly relatives who grew up in Africa and are latently racist whilst being extremely religious and banging on about not judging others etc - likely the result of living in a very divided society. It's not all BNP supporters and steel toed boots. Most countries seem to be much more racist than the UK or at least less reticent about voicing it.

Difference with my Thai friend is that I can't see any historical political reasons for her behaviour, unlike Sikhs/Muslims and many other ethnic feuds.

I think that there is far greater concern for animal welfare on the right than they are given credit for.

UK giving the idea for Hitler’s concentration camps I’ve heard it all now anything else you want to blame us for?

@Country123 Totally get it, the first question my husband always gets is "north or south Korea?" and the second is "do you eat dog?"

I worry about our child too, so much so that we're considering moving to Koreatown when we move to the UK. It's shit. Why should we feel we have to ghettoise ourselves when we don't want to? It's sad.

Totally get it, the first question my husband always gets is "north or south Korea?"

Why is this offensive? (genuine question).

I asked a colleague the other day which part of Ireland they grew up in, which seems a similar question.

@MarginalGain
To be fair the USA does have low animal welfare and public health standards compared to other Western nations
There's a massive over-reliance in chemicals (chlorine, hormones and antibiotics) rather than animal health and welfare, to achieve production targets.

@Sweetpea84
You might want to do some reading around the Boer war. PP is correct in that example, However using it as an example of modern British culture is no more accurate than using The Nazi's as an example of modern Austrian/German attitudes.

To be fair the USA does have low animal welfare and public health standards compared to other Western nations

I agree, although there are plenty of US farms that essentially take no notice of these standards as they produce much higher-welfare meat for their niche markets (just like here in the UK).

I don't even think it is 100% certain this originated in China, I remember articles stating it could have come from elsewhere and China themselves have said it is not to blame. I think they are pointing fingers at the US

Well, well, @KathyBriggs360, fresh from publicly denouncing your neighbour on Facebook for Clap Crimes, here you are peddling a theory that Covid didn't originate in Wuhan. You are on message! Care to specify precisely what you mean? Can you supply a link to support your claim that the US or the UK is mysteriously involved?

@CurrentBun1981 It's not particularly offensive, but it does make the speaker look a bit thick (not many North Korean tourists/immigrants about). And it just gets old. Like if someone asked if you know the queen since you're British. It gets a bit "YOU'RE DIFFERENT" after a while.

And the north/south thing is a thorny issue for many Koreans so I think some would find it offensive, perhaps.

Well, it's a bit of a dilemma that my most 'racist' friends are of a different ethnicity to me. So I must be an ethnically sympathetic racist I guess? 🤔

Racist is racist is racist. I am not one of those idiots who think only certain people can be racist. So yeah, I judge you for befriending people who hold racist opinions no matter how steeped they are in historical oppression. But as long as you are comfortable with your racist friends and their disgusting views, you don't need to concern yourself with what I think.