Going out almost everyday - not essential

[Justasking321]

Me and my 2 kids have followed lockdown rules since this all started. Stayed indoors and have only gone out to buy food once a week. Friend I know with 1 child has never adhered to the guidance and gone out almost everyday day, shopping, park, out with friends, etc.. I have told her as well since the beginning of all this that I won't be doing playdates till this is all over. We've kept our distance. Was talking on the phone and I asked her what she was doing today. She said nothing just going for a walk (with her dc). Her ds and my ds have a quick chat on the phone and her dc tells mine, "We're going in the car to (friends) house. I'm going to play at his house". So she lied to me and her dc said what the real plan was. I don't know why she lied. She even went to visit her parents at the weekend an hours drive away because she had not seen them in ages. I can't believe she lied to me and feel different towards her now, even more so because they are putting other people's lives at risk by going out whenever they feel like it because according to her "they are sociable people and have no symptoms" 😟
AIBU- get over it and move on
IANBU- she lied and Is still not following government guidelines. Keep my distance friendship wise.

It none of your business, I went out in the car yesterday because this all damm thing is getting really tedious and i was getting to the end of my patience, the kids need to be back at school ASAP.

This kind of thing boils my piss. I’m following the rules and so are most of the people I know. I think those that flout them make the rest of us low risk people following the guidelines look like mugs. We are basically having to have harsher restrictions to make up for the fact they think they are fucking special.
However I wouldn’t bother having this out with anyone or changing a friendship over it. People think differently and if you can’t cope with that you wouldn’t have many friends.

'Essentials are bread, eggs, milk, sugar, nappies, toilet roll etc'

Sorry not for us. My 70 year old husband and I don't wear nappies anymore. :-)

My take on other people's activities is:
Are these activities putting me or those I love, personally at risk at the moment?

If no - none of my business - they are putting themselves at risk of getting infected now rather than later - their problem!

Keeping 'the rules' will not make the virus magically disappear - it delays when people will catch it.

I’ve got a neighbour who can see my comings and goings very clearly. I can’t see what she’s up to and frankly am not interested in the slightest. She lives alone and does a big shop once a fortnight. I go out every 2/3 days to pick up shopping. We’re healthy eaters and eat organic fresh food mostly. Sometimes I just nip to our local farm to pick up a few bits, sometimes I do a supermarket shop, sometimes it’s just the butchers. But often, when I shop local there’s next to no contact, no queues or anything. I am being responsible in my own way but just because it doesn’t look how her way looks she’s being very judgey of me. It’s very annoying. Local shops and farms need the business, if everything ticks over the financial outcome of this situation will be less devastating.

Trying to define what's essential would be a tricky enough business even if one held elected office. If a person doesn't even have that legitimacy, they have zero right to make that call for others.

I am sick of people not taking lockdown seriously.
I am sick of seeing people who complain being labelled "curtain twitchers".

Most people are not realising the utter gravity of this situation and the carnage that is happening in peoples homes.
Yes! Homes! Not just hospitals.
I really wish the government would release the total numbers of covid deaths rather than just the deaths that occur in hospitals, that it might scare people into staying home.

I work in the NHS, my colleague and friend is on a fucking ventilator. But carry on visiting your Mum and your mates and going to the shop for 2 essential cucumbers.
Because you know, there are no limits on how often you can go shopping

I was in a posh village yesterday and had to wait to "cross the pavement" as it was so busy with pedestrians, people on bikes, joggers, roller blades, kids with ice creams and balloons from the shop at the playground.
It was like a bloody carnival.

Essentials are bread, eggs, milk, sugar, nappies, toilet roll etc'

We don't eat bread or use sugar. Or have any need of nappies. "Essentials" is a very subjective word.
Put simply, if it's on a shelf in a shop YOU ARE ALLOWED TO BUY IT

I go out once per day for an hour's walk. If I need anything from the shop, I go and buy it as I'm passing, on my walk. I don't go out twice, it's just common sense surely?

It none of your business, I went out in the car yesterday because this all damm thing is getting really tedious and i was getting to the end of my patience, the kids need to be back at school ASAP

Oh it’s getting tedious is it? What a shame for you.
People are dying FFS. During the war do you think people had the chance to say “oh this is a bit tedious now let’s just break all the blackout rules and bugger rationing”

Do you work in frontline role? Have you any idea how people who work direct with patients with this are going thorough. My SIL has lost her mother and her dad is seriously ill.

But you are finding it all a bit tedious so it’s ok to break the rules

We only go shopping once every eight days and maybe pop out to get milk if we run out. We do go for a walk everyday but near our house. I've lost four otherwise healthy friends to the virus already. Why wouldn't you be following lockdown? 😕 it's people like your friend who will keep the country in lockdown longer and will continue to help spread the virus.

Yes it's getting tedious. It's OK for people to say that they're not happy or finding it difficult. Harping back 75 years to the war is completely different. Even during the war kids went to school and parents weren't cooped up in the house with them all 24/7, If escaping for a while for a quick drive away from it all is what you have to do to get through, then that's fine. Zero contact with anyone else doing that.

All the hysterical BUT PEOPLE ARE DYING!!!! Yes they are, but someone leaving the house for a drive or picking up some chocolate biscuits and a pint of milk on a walk isn't causing that. There are no "rules" which say don't leave the house, ever, unless it's to buy bread and nappies. People are making up their own rules to suit themselves, and then berating people who "break" these totally made up rules for being irresponsible.

World has gone totally mad.

Actually I decide what are essentials to me and when I need to go out. I won't have mumsnet dictate to me that it's bread, milk and sugar.

I also won't have mumsnet dictate to me that I can only go out for a walk for an hour.

And I won't have mumsnet tell me that I don't care as much as you do because you haven't been out for 8 days.

Yes a few people are taking the piss. But most people aren't.

@Justasking321 YABU for being so obsessed with someone else's life and their comings and goings! Your friend and her DC is getting exercise everyday and you don't know for a fact that what her DC said to your DC is the truth. For starters it would mean the other family they're supposedly meeting would have to break the guidelines too! Kids say things all the time, it doesn't mean it's true! Additionly her elderly parents may need extra help and may not have access to services so that IS allowed in this situation. STOP making assumptions about other peoples situations. You should get on with your own life, stop being so bloody nosey and take your kids for a walk. People don't like gossips! You don't sound like a very nice friend tbh when you so easily slags her off behind her back. I'd say it's not the first time you've criticised her either!

Put simply, if it's on a shelf in a shop YOU ARE ALLOWED TO BUY IT

This! I used re-usable nappies on mine, too, long ago. Long past that stage. Essentials include wine, salad, bacon.