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AIBU to be fuming at DH!?

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PinotByTheBucketPlease · 13/04/2020 22:10

We co-sleep with our 7 month old breastfed baby. Breastfeeding was never in my plan, nor was co-sleeping, but the two kind of just happened and seemed to fit together so well so I just ran with it.

I enjoy sleeping next to our baby, I love cuddling him, it’s made our bond so strong, feeding him to sleep while I doze next to him makes my life a hell of a lot easier, as some nights he can still feed up to five times (or more!), so I’ll be damned if I’m sitting up, hunched over to feed that many times through the night, then struggling to get him settled in a cot for god knows how long after.

A couple months ago, DH declared how unhappy he was about sleeping in the bed with the baby. He said he wasn’t get decent sleep, despite the fact he’d snore from the moment his head hit in the pillow, right up until he’d get up for work the following morning - often keeping me awake for hours at a time in the process!

Regardless, I expressed my sympathy and assured him that we wouldn’t be co-sleeping forever, I refuse to be one of those mums who still have their two year olds in bed with them (nothing against parents that do that, I just know I’ll wind up needing and wanting my bed space at some point!!!). I told him that once the baby drops down to two guaranteed feeds a night (rather than the erratic ones at present) I’ll actively start trying to settle him in to his cot, but for the time being, co-sleeping was saving my sanity and allowing me to have sufficient energy the following day to deal with our 3 year old, and two year old as well as the baby. In the mean time, I’ve been doing my utmost best to keep the baby on the outer side of the bed, away from DH for as much of the night as humanly possible!

Anyway, since lockdown, DH has really ramped up the ‘the baby shouldn’t be sleeping in here with us anymore, you need to do something about it now’ chats. I’m not ready to stop co-sleeping and make my life infinitely harder right now, but because he’s been nagging me, I finally caved this evening.

I took the baby through to our room and spent over two hours trying to settle him in to the cot (a next to me cot), only for him to wake up screaming like someone was murdering him 20 minutes later. I brought the baby back to the lounge with me, and started feeding him in there and said to DH ‘once I’ve finished feeding our baby, seeing as you’re the one who wants him to sleep away from us, you can take him and settle him, because I’ve just lost the best part of my entire evening and haven’t even had half an hour to myself since all three kids went to bed.’

DH turns around and goes ‘No. Its not my problem. You deal with it. You’re the one that started the co-sleeping, you need to fix it, not me!!’. I responded with something along the lines of ‘but co-sleeping and breastfeeding go hand-in-hand, it’s perfectly natural and normal, I’m not even ready to stop co-sleeping, the only reason I'm doing this now is because of you, but if I’m not going to have your support and your help, then fuck it, I won’t even bother’.

With that, I grabbed the spare duvet and a tonne of blankets and set up a makeshift bed in our lounge for myself and the baby, half expecting DH to say either ‘oh don’t do that, I’ll help out and make this easier on you’ or even ‘I’ll sleep in the lounge, you and the baby take the bedroom’, but nope, up he fucking got and went to bed in a huff, not saying goodnight, just fucked off and left me to it with our baby.

AIBU to think this isn’t just MY ‘problem’ to solve? We should be coming together as parents to ‘correct’ this, shouldn’t we? He’s the one that always told me to try breastfeeding our children because ‘it’s better for them’, and on our third and final child, I finally nailed it but now it’s like he’s fucking penalising and berating the efforts I’d put in place to both establish breastfeeding and also make sure I had enough rest to cope with our other young DC’s.

Ugh. Perspectives please!!!!

OP posts:
PinotByTheBucketPlease · 13/04/2020 23:18

So we're laying on the duvet, but baby always sleeps with his head on my arm, cuddled in to me, if that makes sense? What we're doing on the floor is no different to what we'd be doing in the bed, so its still just as safe, just nowhere near as comfortable for me.

We have a next to me cot, it's what I tried settling the baby in to this evening, but he was having none of it. Even though I'm not ready to stop co-sleeping, if DH had come in and helped while I spent two hours trying to sort the baby out - instead of him taking an hour long bath - I'd have been more inclined to stick at it.

But fuck it. This isnt 'my' problem. As far as I'm aware, co-sleeping and breastfeeding go together, yet he's making me feel like I've done something drastically wrong by having the baby in bed with us.

DH says he's found himself 'sleeping lightly' because he's paranoid of rolling on to the baby, that then changed to apparently 'the baby rolling on to his side and leaving him with no room' - hence me keeping the baby as far away from him as possible. We have the next to me cot set up next to our bed, and I kid you not, each night my arse is more in the cot than our bloody bed, and we've got a king size!

DH is a 'man of science'. Works in science, loves a good article etc, yet he's never once read up about breastfeeding/co-sleeping, seems to be burying his head in the sand regarding the issue and how normal it is. If he spent 5 seconds on google, he'd see I'm not some insane person trying to rob him of his sleep Hmm

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OoohTheStatsDontLie · 13/04/2020 23:18

Hi OP

I'm not sure that its really safe to co sleep in a bed with a snoring partner, or bunched up on duvets on the floor...not sure either fall within the safe sleeping guidelines. Sorry I know that's not what you asked.

I dont think he is unreasonable to have an opinion on co sleeping. He is unreasonable for everything else you've described, demanding that its sorted and refusing to help!

I had a baby who slept terribly, woke up around 7 times a night to breastfeed and we ended up co sleeping, I sorted it out around the 7 month mark with the help of a sleep consultant. It was purely habit feeding and stopped after sleep training (not cry it out before I get lynched!). PM me if you want details of what we did by the way.

Anyway one of the things the sleep consultant said was if you have a baby that is breastfeeding for comfort as a habit to get them off to sleep, it's a million times easier to break this habit if the dad or someone else does the bulk of the first few nights of sleep training as if the baby knows their mum is there and they arent getting milk, they are much harder to settle than if they accept that someone else is putting them to bed.

So not only is he being selfish (even if something is one partners 'fault', in general terms it's still mean of the other partner to not help try and fix something) he is also making it more difficult on your baby and you by not helping and going against what most people would think of as sensible advice

OoohTheStatsDontLie · 13/04/2020 23:19

Oops x posted

frillyfarmer · 13/04/2020 23:19

Another agreeing folded over duvet is really unsafe - baby needs a firm mattress with no loose duvet/sheets around. Tell your dickhead husband to get on the sofa until he's stopped being a prick.

Shmithecat2 · 13/04/2020 23:32

He's a prick. Go to bed. If he doesn't like it, he can bugger off to the sofa.

Merryoldgoat · 13/04/2020 23:35

I’m currently lying next to my 2yo. We have the king size. DH is in the baby’s room (spare bed in there). He sometimes sleeps with the baby but we all get a better night in this configuration.

My DH has never once complained.

Yours is a dick.

ECBC · 13/04/2020 23:40

Please do not sleep on a duvet your baby needs a firm mattress. I am absolutely speechless that your DH is prioritising his needs over the safety of your baby that is despicable.

CardsforKittens · 13/04/2020 23:45

Your husband is a selfish twat. Tell him to do some reading.

recycledbottle · 13/04/2020 23:47

Please go to the bed. Sleeping on a duvet is not safe for the baby. Tell husband to sleep on the floor.

timeisnotaline · 13/04/2020 23:50

Wake him up. Kick him out to the floor bed. Tell him if he thinks he can tell you to try and breastfeed for 3 babies he can fucking well be a dad and a husband and share the load and tomorrow night you get the hour long bath while he fucking parents. And if he whinges tell him he does fucking nothing at night and if he whines again you are going to go onto a shift plan of 3 hours on 3 hours off and he will discover how ‘disturbed’ sleep compares to NOT SLEEPING.
There’s a word for ‘Scientific men’ who can’t be arsed looking into parenting but just decide it should be easy for them and exhausting and difficult for their wife- it’s assholes.

livefornaps · 13/04/2020 23:51

He sounds like the world's biggest twat

LaProfesora · 13/04/2020 23:57

Your DH is a dickhead. Does he even give a shit about this baby? What's he like as a dad?

Hannah021 · 13/04/2020 23:59

Go back to ur bed.... He can leave if he's not happy

Aveisenim · 14/04/2020 00:14

Seriously, get your ass back in your bed and boot his ass out onto the sofa. He's acting like an entitled arsehole.

Qwerty543 · 14/04/2020 00:22

That's still not a safe way to sleep at all OP. Do not sleep with your baby on a folded up duvet. It's not the same as a mattress.

PlanDeRaccordement · 14/04/2020 00:24

Ok,

But you are not co-sleeping. Co-sleeping is having the baby sleep in the same room as you but in a separate cot or crib. What you are doing is technically bed sharing and actually not safe for the baby. Yes your DH and you had a row over ‘fixing’ it but bed sharing and breastfeeding do not “go hand in hand” and bed sharing is not “normal” but dangerous.

You really should not have the baby sleeping in your bed with you.
www.nhs.uk/news/pregnancy-and-child/sharing-a-bed-with-your-baby-ups-risk-of-cot-death/

TwoMuchTwoYoung · 14/04/2020 00:32

Yes she is co-sleeping Plan but if the baby is in between you and dh that's very unsafe. As is the way you're sleeping tonight.

Go back to bed and have the baby on the outside of the bed next to you only.

Make dh sleep in another room, every single night. You shouldn't have to put up with his snoring when you're getting a broken nights sleep already.

timeisnotaline · 14/04/2020 00:38

Having baby in your bed is exactly what cosleeping is Confused

TheSheepofWallSt · 14/04/2020 00:38

Not safe on the duvet OP - there’s a mum on here somewhere whose child died of cot death after she lined a travel cot with a duvet- it was well tucked in etc.

Your husband is a prize tosser- go upstairs, get into bed with the baby, and tell him if he doesn’t like it, the sofa is downstairs.

Presumably you’re not afraid of him? He’s not violent or aggressive? In which case the worst/ best he’ll do is fuck off as requested.

JKScot4 · 14/04/2020 00:45

but co-sleeping and breastfeeding go hand-in-hand
No they don’t, I fed all 4 of mine and never co slept with any, the guidelines in the past used to advise against it as unsafe and I still believe it can be.
5 night feeds seems excessive at 7mths tbf.

JasonPollack · 14/04/2020 00:45

You need to take back your bed. And not make gestures like setting up a floorbed if you're not prepared to follow through with them. He can't force you to stop cosleeping- just tell him no, that if it's a problem he can sleep on the couch/floor. At least now you know he has no problem with you doing so!

But also if you're going to cosleep you should do it safely- baby should not be between you and DH but between you and the edge. And not on a folded duvet.

Aveisenim · 14/04/2020 01:38

Bedsharing is perfectly safe as long as it's done safely in line with the guidelines. I did a research article on it for University. It is when it is done unplanned/in an unsafe way (like on a sofa) that it becomes a danger.

www.lullabytrust.org.uk/safer-sleep-advice/co-sleeping/

SandyY2K · 14/04/2020 01:41

It's not safe for the baby to be in bed with you and your H. I would also not sleep well, for fear of hurting my baby.

I had the moses basket by the side of our bed for about 6/7 months once she was sleeping through for about 5/6 hours.

Is it the co sleeping you dont want to give up... as in the same bed? Or would having the baby in the room with you be okay?

SandyY2K · 14/04/2020 01:47

SIDS is not 100% preventable, but the American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP) says a safe sleep environment can cut the chance of getting it. The group’s latest safe sleep recommendations issued in 2016 say parents should not share a bed with their babies.

But they should share a bedroom. They also recommend against napping with your baby on your chest.

Despite the recommendations, the new analysis said that bed sharing or co-sleeping is on the rise. The percentage of babies sharing a sleep surface rose from 6.5% in 1993 to 13.5% in 2010.

I breast fed all my children, but never had them.in my bed.

SandyY2K · 14/04/2020 01:54

DH says he's found himself 'sleeping lightly' because he's paranoid of rolling on to the baby,

We have the next to me cot set up next to our bed, and I kid you not, each night my arse is more in the cot than our bloody bed, and we've got a king size!

So neither if you are sleeping well are you. That's just going to make you both feel irritable.

DH is a 'man of science'. Works in science, loves a good article etc, yet he's never once read up about breastfeeding/co-sleeping, seems to be burying his head in the sand regarding the issue and how normal it is. If he spent 5 seconds on google, he'd see I'm not some insane person trying to rob him of his sleep hmm

You need to read more on it yourself and see the dangers.

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