To think MN should drop the idea of a two-tier system?

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AIBU is particularly infested with trolls, I think this will only make it worse.

The trolls will pay for the premium membership so that they don't get banned and non paying people that don't want to risk their privacy or can't afford it will suffer.

I agree OP.
Trolls will be willing to pay £5/mo for a captive site of victims that they cannot be banned from
MN is already very classist- this move will impact working class members the most. Might even say they picked such a rate specifically so as to limit MN to the well heeled.

I don't like the idea of a two tier MN for lots of reasons.

I'd be happy to make a donation via Justgiving or some secure website that could be trusted with personal information.

I think it’ll become even more cliquey.
I think if you got banned you’d just lose the subscription money from what I’ve read.
Not really worth the risk when the rules are ambiguous at the best of times!

Another 99p and you're at Disney+ subscription

Not suggesting Disney+ is an alternative to MN but shows you there position they're pricing at.

Frankly crazy, it'll seriously damage the site, its content and I'm sure its popularity in the long term

They clearly said mods won’t have that info in front of them and that it won’t show to other users. Your post is misinformation.

Mums.chat looks like a low budget mumsnet.
All those saying it’s better because ‘no ads’ and ‘no trolls’ need to give it time!

It's not going to protect people from being banned

Justine also said no one would be able to see the information of the people that paid, then backtracked after someone called her out and she then said just 5 people will see the personal details of people (address and name but not card numbers). I'm not sure you can really trust what they say..

What's two tier system, what am i missing ?

I won't be subscribing due to having doubts about the safety of payments.

But ..... The trolls will pay for the premium membership so that they don't get banned and non paying people that don't want to risk their privacy or can't afford it will suffer.

The trolls will still get banned according to Justine. Although I do wonder whether they'll be able to push the boundaries much further, if they've paid for the whole year. I imagine MNHQ will be reluctant to refund them.

Is mum's.chat totally independent of mums net?

After the myriad of security breaches on here I wouldn't trust this shower with my bank details!

But how can you ban the trolls / people here just to cause upset without refunding their money? It's going to be messy

Mn is not good at spotting trolls , they rely on us to report them.

Troll posts, and the ludicrous amount of opinion / conjecture stated as facts and left to stand are the reason I couldn't pay - even if it wasn't so overpriced.

£5 a month seems like a lot for a website. I'd never pay that.

grey they wont have bank details, just address and phone number details

I've just looked at mums chat. I'm sure they're in breach of copyright. It looks identical to mn.

People will start trolling it as soon as they get wind of it.

Whats mums c hat?

I don't mind paying, I just dont understand how it will work. I mean, we're not customers. We're the equivalent of battery hens.. the product. Is it just like an upgrade to free range where we think we have more freedom or are we being bumped up to being a customer?

I have no problem supporting something I use a lot, I'm just confused. Not that that takes much

But we're getting an edit button!

The trolls will pay for the premium membership so that they don't get banned and non paying people that don't want to risk their privacy or can't afford it will suffer

Justine said if people were being an arse (her words not mine) then it would make no difference if you had paid and that if you were worried about losing money if you were likely to get a ban then you should pay each month and not annually.

Why are they doing this? Are they losing advertising revenue?