To think that Ross Kemp shouldn't be filming at MK Hospital?

[nellythenarwhal]

Ross Kemp is currently filming a Corona Virus documentary at the ICU of MIlton Keynes Hospital.
Considering that dying patients can't see family, AIBU to think that this is an outrageous decision?

His name is Ross Kemp not Grant mitchell. Weird to have to point that out.
Betty its not stupidity having a different opinion to you. Just because i dont bow down to the mumsnet outrage that a documentary is being made about a pandemic with loads of hyperbole and rage when this doesnt even currently affect anyone on this thread.

No im not an overly emotional person. I dont feel sad when i hear people die. It doesnt concern me and i just physically can't get upset over it. Might make me sound like a monster but thats the way it is. I often pretend to be upset and cry because the judgement when i dont gets peoples backs up.

I genuinely see this as nothing more than a recorded evidence of whats occuring right now and dont see why people feel its disrespectful or undignified or evil or whatever. As i said my family already made the choice many people here havent but are bitching about.

'Bitching' about
Well if you're not bothered about people dying, then of course that explains a lot.
I'm not sure why you keep saying it doesn't affect anyone. It's a pandemic. It could affect absolutely anyone here. Loads of things don't affect people personally though, but people can still see the outrage or injustice of it. They can also point out where something is hugely unethical.

Depends what your definition of unethical is and this aint it. Its a bloody documentary showing reality. Its not a gameshow where hes going to be stood over people on ventilators quick firing general knowledge questions at staff for their chance to win a car

This thread is just wildly hypocritical. Y'all never had bitching threads when sky news filmed icu in italy and played it on loop for weeks. Is that ok coz they were italian people?

On a sake of not being a massive hypocrit you might want to swerve any documentaries showing anything about people. Also avoid the news and maybe charities as well.

PMSL that anything produced by him and his ilk is a documentary showing reality. Just says it all. And to bang on about how judgemental people are but then extend that those who don't agree with you should just avoid charities as well. Holy jumping to wild conclusions, Batman, but alas! This one is morally superior to others, Master Yoda.

Bitchin', ya'll 😂😂

Honestly, just don't stick your hand it, people.

Geepipe Yes, of course filming and broadcasting dying patients in a hospital without consent (as you would have it) isn't unethical.
The rest of your post is one step too ridiculous to pass comment on.

Hahhaa so what your saying is only people YOU want to present things should do and you think your argument makes sense. Ok then. No its not ridiculous at all. Either you are opposed to people being filmed in hard times or your not. Thats the crux of it. Either you support people being filmed in hardship or you dont. Is real fucking simple. So yeah if you support oxfam filming starving africans or wateraid filming villagers dying of dysentry or you support filming the deaf blind kid orrrr you dont. Is massively hypocritical to say they are not exactly the same.

Yes, of course filming and broadcasting dying patients in a hospital without consent (as you would have it) isn't unethical

It’s been pointed out numerous times that consent is necessary.

Alsohuman as I said in brackets, PP would like the filming even without consent.

How the fuck do you know what my opinion is on filming in all of those scenarios you've just mentioned, @Geepipe ? I'm on topic. I came here to pass comment on what the thread was started about.

It's really fucking simple.

You are.

the other hand I will be furious if one of my kids are admitted and he was there but I couldn't.

Just think for a moment what it would be like if the last time you saw your family member alive was on national television.

I don't think that individuals will be filmed without their consent and if I had a family member in there that I couldn't see, I'd be grateful if they were well enough to consent to be filmed and would be happy to see them, even though it was on TV.

Is he a key worker?! Is

I thought journalists were on the list of keyworkers. This is documentary journalism.

Well you havent mentioned any of the other things you presumably watch a lot of and never mention it. So clearly you and anyone else complaining can't be that outraged that you dont mention something. You are also weirdly hostile to me because i disagree with you and dont see issues where you do.

No they can fuck off. If my partner is not allowed to support me during early labour then why the hell should they be allowed in to film

Geepipe why would I? Stick to the topic at hand.

This is the topic at hand. Either you are arguing against real life documentaries as a whole or you are not. Or you are just arguing you hate Ross Kemp and in fact its only Ross Kemp you have an issue with?

Also what about people who would want to be part of it? Or do you think every single person shares your view.

I'm backing away slowly from this one.

If my partner is not allowed to support me during early labour then why the hell should they be allowed in to film

They’re not going to birthing units.

Broadcasters and journalists working for public broadcasting are key workers.

They are essential to get the government message out, getting our views to the government and for helping to keep us plebs entertained at home.

In regards to the documentary and documentaries like this people are always asked for their consent. The majority of people will give it if it will save one other person's life. Why do you think the news is full of people who have had a close relative die of Covid-19 who couldn't hug them or see them?

They might want him there but I personally wouldn't want him them if a member of my family was on the ward. Just think for a moment what it would be like if the last time you saw your family member alive was on national television.

But patients won’t be shown unless they or their families have given permission.

I think it’s very important to see the truth of what is going in. I want to know what is happening and want doctors to have a voice.

A film crew of three people showing the reality of what the NHS is facing is important, and it’s a completely different decision to allowing dozens of relatives into an ICU.

I watched the documentary and actually thought it was very informative for the general public. The enormity of the situation and the harsh reality is important in terms of putting the measures in to context and I actually think the public need to be made aware of this. I understand that a lot of ppl on here have that understanding without the need to see it, but we also know that there are ppl flouting the rules and they need to see it

So funny how people are saying what they think of it when they haven't seen it.

It was a very respectful programme. OBVIOUSLY nobody was interviewed without consent. OBVIOUSLY nobody was being filmed while they were dying.

Staff were interviewed. It was explained how the regular A&E was kept separate from Covid patients. It explained what ventilation did. It looked very calm and the staff were very professional.