To think that Ross Kemp shouldn't be filming at MK Hospital?

[nellythenarwhal]

Ross Kemp is currently filming a Corona Virus documentary at the ICU of MIlton Keynes Hospital.
Considering that dying patients can't see family, AIBU to think that this is an outrageous decision?

I wouldn't want to be filmed but if I was on a ventilator with no family to stop them would they just go ahead without my consent? Just no dignity for patients

Found this Q and A about filming

www.mkuh.nhs.uk/news/qa-filming-with-ross-kemp-at-mkuh

I've not watched this, but his documentaries are very good and I wouldn't call him a celebrity either, yes, he's well known and used to be on a soap but that was a long time ago.

What little I know if his previous documentaries is that they’re pretty solid journalism.

We need sunlight in these times.

I think it's the worst of the worst, almost 10,000 people lost to Covid19 and he thinks it's appropriate to film in a hospital where undoubtedly more people will lose lives.

That is more families who will be grieving loved ones.

It's probably my closest hospital and it make my blood run cold.

Utterly gobsmacked it's been signed off.

You would be pretty pissed off if you couldn't visit a relative, yet Ross has been allowed in to film.

I've never been in or seen ICU in real life as we've been lucky with our health so maybe I will use this as an opportunity to learn.

It would stick in my throat if I was one of the families who couldn't visit though. Perhaps I will look out for what they say after the broadcast.

I doubt it will be an accurate portrayal of what it is like in the hospital at the moment, if it was then the managers wouldn't have agreed to it in the first place

Oh they would! I used to work in NHS comms, my board would have been all over this like a rash and my brief would have been to show them the worst.

This isn’t the first look inside though is it? Someone whose name I forget was on an ICU on BBC breakfast and BBC look east ran a spot on papworth ICU last week.

I think that it’s appropriate that people do get a look into what is going on. I have no idea whether this is meant to focus on the treatment, the lack of PPE or what, but I think that not filming is more like a cover-up

TBH I’m more incensed that Holby city have working ventilators and have only just thought to donate them to the nightingale hospital, while all the while the bbc have been talking up a lack of access to ventilators in hospitals.

Very ill thought out and a total kick in the teeth for people with family members who they aren't able to comfort or say goodbye to.

Do we actually know what the documentary covers though? I.e. are they actually filming people or just filming the processes?

As it is family would be asked to consent to footage being shown if someone was directly being filmed and wasn’t able to consent for themselves - remember not everyone in icu is unconscious.

And let’s be honest, lots of hospital programmes film people who then die. In fact BBC2 hospital filmed a man actually die under anaesthetic so that too would have been his family’s last view of him yet they will have consented to it being shown.

I do wonder if our hospitals are as well equipped for everyone as the images we have seen in Italy. This will shine a light on what is happening. I don’t consider it ambulance chasing. Rather as showing what it is like in the crisis and getting the public to take stock and those, not obeying the rules to think again.

What little I know if his previous documentaries is that they’re pretty solid journalism. We need sunlight in these times.

Sunlight?! He's filming in an ICU - just how much sunlight do you think that there is going to be there. It's not a fucking rose garden.

Yet no one had issues with sky news journos filming in icu in italy and broadcasting it for weeks. Now there is an opp for a journalist to document what happens in uk hospitals. His documentaries tend to be very good and unbiased too. my dbro has been in one. Real life isnt glamourous and none of ross kemps documentaries are glamourous. Also journalists tend to get certain licenses to be able to do these things so no point comparing to joe blogs. A journo isnt going to want to touch or be close to the patients whereas family will do it despite being told not to in many cases.

I was ready to say YANBU, but thinking about it some more, I don't see how it's worse than those war reporters who film children dying in foreign countries we've invaded. This is just literally closer to home.

When is it being shown?

I think it’s impossible to judge until people have actually seen it. If the actual footage is inappropriate then that is potentially cause for complaint, but if people are just complaining that filming is allowed then IMO it isn’t. He’s not the first and he won’t be the last.

I would be interested to see what it actually covers, although hearing all the monitors etc are a bit of a trigger for me as I spent two weeks in ICU last summer. But as a result I do also have a good understanding of what goes on in one.

Sunlight?! He's filming in an ICU - just how much sunlight do you think that there is going to be there. It's not a fucking rose garden

It’s a metaphor. Sigh

I would have thought there is a need for journalism here to show what is really happening, obviously subject to patient consent.

I honestly dont see how this is any different to what you see on the news. Unless you also have an issue with war journalism or famine journalism or any other form of journalism that shows the reality of whats happening in the world.

@missingmydad

I was referencing the phrase “sunlight in the best disinfectant”. I.e. someone showing how it really is is the best way of cleaning things up.

Obviously I’m not imagining it’s a rose garden

Solid journalism is important in times where whitewashing and coverups will be rife.

Journalists are counted as essential workers as that’s his career now he’s technically not doing anything wrong.

I've been in ICU more than once, as has my daughter so I do know what it's like.

It’s a metaphor. Sigh

Yes. One which people have been using to say we need happiness - which obviously this programme won't be bringing. I see that the PP who used it meant as in detergent, a rather obscure reference which I didn't recognise.

On balance, I think it's the wrong decision.

I sincerely doubt any single person at all would alter their behaviour on the strength of seeing a RK documentary.

I can't see a strong argument for it.