To think that Ross Kemp shouldn't be filming at MK Hospital?

[nellythenarwhal]

Ross Kemp is currently filming a Corona Virus documentary at the ICU of MIlton Keynes Hospital.
Considering that dying patients can't see family, AIBU to think that this is an outrageous decision?

Its more weird people raging over something that doesnt affect them.

How are you so sure about that? But I'm so sorry you were in a position to have to give permission for your loved one to be filmed in ICU because it so needed to be shown or eejit fuckwits wouldn't believe it's real, kudos for putting them forward to educate the ignorant for the greater good. I'm sure your loved one understood the necessity once they recovered.

Geepipe on then so you would give permission because you don't think people believe it's real. What about the ones who wouldn't want that? Should their rights and personal dignity really be bulldozed over because you think the press should prove a point to mindless idiots who don't believe' in Covid?

No patient will be filmed without their consent or that of their family. Faces will be pixelated if permission isn’t given.

Think I'd rather stay and home and die than risk my death being broadcast and gawped at, pixelated or not.

Bet you wouldn’t. Easy to say when not faced with that situation.

Faces will be pixelated if permission isn’t given.

And you think the families still won't recognise their loved one? I can promise you, I'd know my child anywhere, from her very toenails, just pixelating her face wouldn't be enough, and to know I couldn't be with her, but fucking Grant Mitchell and co. can to use these patients in such a manner is a fucking disgrace.

Well more fool you then if you would rather die than be a pixilated anonymous in a serious documentary about a massive future historical event. Maybe you should write that on a dnr form so they dont bother taking you to hospital at all.

Permission will be saught from relatives or anyone who is not sedated. Sometimes yes it is important to show the reality of things.

Also to whoever said upthread my cousin died in icu she doesnt give a shit if she was filmed or not she doesnt exist anymore. And it was important to explain what had happened to her to prevent it happening to anyone else. And yes people didnt believe it until they saw it in the local news.

It could have been explained without having to use her to do so, Gee. But well, my daughter didn't live, either, I'm glad she was still treated with respect even though she's dead and doesn't 'give a shit'.

I think it’s very important that this documentary is made.

Yes, hidden cameras could be worn by staff members who are already in ITU - but don’t you think they’ve got enough to do without constantly reminding themselves to explain in layman’s terms what they’re up to? For the benefit of the recording.

That’s the bit Ross Kemp will be there for.

It really couldnt have been explained without showing her. There is such a thing as putting a face to a voice and its the sane with journalism and documentaries. Thats like saying there shouldnt be documentaries about victims of serial killers or any historical documentaries. Do you realise so many people refused to believe the holocaust was real until they saw photos of victims inside the camps. And amazingly the surviving victims have no qualms at all about those photos because they understand the reality of sharing the truth. I dont understand why filming a documentary is considered disrespectful in any way especially if anyone against it is blurred out.

Im really sorry to hear about your daughter.

How dare they. They let camera men in when people are fighting for their lives and unable to consent.

They use up valuable nhs resources to negotiate access, perform risk assessments, get consent forms from all staff and patients.

They replaced any ppe they used? Surely if they have ppe available they should be donating it!!!! 🤬🤬

Whoever thought this was a good idea needs a serious head wobble.

They use up valuable nhs resources to negotiate access, perform risk assessments, get consent forms from all staff and patients

The people who do those things are paid to do exactly that. It’s why hospitals have comms professionals.

More fool you

Ok.

Do you realise so many people refused to believe the holocaust was real until they saw photos of victims inside the camps. And amazingly the surviving victims have no qualms at all about those photos because they understand the reality of sharing the truth.

Do you realise people still refuse, same as flat Earth freaks who can be shown reams of scientific evidence that the Earth is not flat and they still refuse to believe? And unless you know every single Holocaust survivor and that they have no qualms about those photos then you really cannot say. They're letting in a soap opera star and a cameraperson at a time when loved ones aren't even allowed in as shock value. People who think this is all a conspiracy theory (like my stoner next door neighbour) a) are not going to watch this and go yeah, I was totally wrong b) will still think it's all made up propaganda. There's already cameras in hospitals for security purposes so this is just grotesque for the purpose of so-called shock journalism/sensationalism.

Er ross kemp is a journo now not a soap opera star. People are allowed to change professions.

😂 😂 😂 Yep, a journo, way more important to be there than the loved ones.

The people who do those things are paid to do exactly that. It’s why hospitals have comms professionals.

And I am sure their skills and time could be much better utilised in a pandemic that for a Ross Kemp program.

Yep i agree a journo is more important to be there to be producing a future historic recording than a family member who will do fuck all but get in the way and become too emotional that they cant touch their relative.

MK Hospitals is one of the few that are doing this properly. They haven’t cancelled many other ‘non-essential’ appointments for Coronavirus so I hope he shows this to shame hospitals that have.

That's interesting because my mum says MK Hospital is absolutely empty at the moment and her department has no work to do because there are no patients except pregnant ladies and Cv19 patients. My dad got referred for a CT scan this week and when he called they said they've all got nothing to do so he could literally attend any time he wanted. So I was under the impression that they had actually cancelled quite a lot of stuff. I'd be interested to know what the reality is.

And I am sure their skills and time could be much better utilised in a pandemic that for a Ross Kemp program

Doing what? This is precisely what they’re paid to do.

His "documentary" about HMP Belmarsh was a load of old bollocks, so i dont expect this to be any better. I think MK hospital has cancelled a lot of non-emergency stuff - my DD was in A&E there last week (not coronavirus related, fortunately) and the whole place was deserted. It was like 28 Days Later.

Yes, those over-emotional family members (none of them is ever capable of subduing their emotions for the good of their loved one, of course) who do fuck all but 'get in the way' (people on vents can often time still hear) . Because world class journos like Grant Mitchell so much more needed, won't get in the way at all, I mean, no one who actually works there is capable of wearing a body cam for this important historical recording since there's no security cameras in there. Must use a C5 sensationalist. That'll convince 'em all this is real. The patients (who gives, their faces are pixelated) and their families (but of over-emotional extraneous nuisances who just get in the way and do fuck all) are all expendable, gotta a show to make here. PMSL that using people like this is some kind of altruistic venture, gees, believing that's almost as bad as stoners who think this is made up or flat Earth freaks.

A journo is more important to be there than a family member who will do fuck all but get in the way and become too emotional

One of the most cold, detached things I've ever read. Whatever has made you lack human empathy....well I hope you recover soon.

I'd be interested to know what the reality is.

Don't worry! The world-renowned broadcast journalist male equivalent to Orla Guerin and Christiane Amanpour is about to show us all what it really is. Brace yourselves. It's all so needed and necessary.

One of the most cold, detached things I've ever read. Whatever has made you lack human empathy....well I hope you recover soon.

I don't think you can recover from stupidity.