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To think that Ross Kemp shouldn't be filming at MK Hospital?

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nellythenarwhal · 11/04/2020 19:21

Ross Kemp is currently filming a Corona Virus documentary at the ICU of MIlton Keynes Hospital.
Considering that dying patients can't see family, AIBU to think that this is an outrageous decision?

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TheArchSorcererofContwaraburg · 11/04/2020 21:46

Nothing will make covidiots 'see reality' bar perhaps their own illness and death or those of those they love. Critically ill patients whose loved one cannot be by their side are not fucking instructional manuals for thick dickheads who've already shown they don't give a toss about anyone but themselves.

nellythenarwhal · 11/04/2020 21:53

Thank you for the link Alternative.
Matt Hancock should be hanging his head in shame for suggesting that these amazing people need to ration use of PPE. AngrySad

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ArchbishopOfBanterbury · 11/04/2020 22:52

I'm not convinced it's an essential journey. Does he really need to be there in person to make the point?

MyBlueMoonbeam · 11/04/2020 22:59

I've not watched this, but his documentaries are very good and I wouldn't call him a celebrity either, yes, he's well known and used to be on a soap but that was a long time ago.

Not a comment on the ethics of this project but have you never heard of Spandau Ballet? 😅

bettybattenburg · 11/04/2020 23:01

Not a comment on the ethics of this project but have you never heard of Spandau Ballet?

As in Gary and Martin Kemp? Grin

RuffleCrow · 11/04/2020 23:03

Is he a key worker?! Is he buying essentials, caring for someone vulnerable to exercising? No? Then he should be at home like the rest of us.

saraclara · 11/04/2020 23:04

Is he a key worker?! Is he buying essentials, caring for someone vulnerable to exercising? No? Then he should be at home like the rest of us.

No. He's at work. Like lots of us.

Lovebb · 11/04/2020 23:07

I’m sure if it shows the government in a good light it’ll say it’s all propaganda so it pointless whatever he does

Yester · 11/04/2020 23:08

I think it needs to be done. The horror thay has been allowed to happen is not being shown. It was shown in Italy but here the news is whitewashed with the queen or Boris. They keep giving the numbers along side the stay at home message reinforcing that it is our fault and not the government's herd immunity that has brought us here.

Lovebb · 11/04/2020 23:08

rufflecrow

I’m not a key worker and I go to work 5 days a week where we can’t do the 2m rule. He’s at work, it’s fine

MyBlueMoonbeam · 11/04/2020 23:09

As in Gary and Martin Kemp?

Oh jeez my bad - too much 🍷@bettybattenburg 😳

MyBlueMoonbeam · 11/04/2020 23:10

Extra embarrassing as I hung out with them a few times in the 80s 😆

480Widdio · 11/04/2020 23:15

Think they have blocked Tweets now as well!!!

Flowersforpowers · 11/04/2020 23:18

The hospital have been very clear on the restrictions, including needing consent from patients and staff to show their identities, and spending as little time as possible on the ward. He's not there on a jolly - would people be less upset if it was a news anchor? It's vastly more acceptable to me than the images which normally appear on the news every night of starving children, refugees in war torn countries, all identifiable and with all agency taken away from them. Or even images from the US now - people moving body bags, burying coffins in mass graves.

Having said that, I can understand it must be horrendous to think about if you have a loved one there and cannot visit.

TheArchSorcererofContwaraburg · 11/04/2020 23:19

God, yes, critically ill patients, some of whom will die without their loved ones there, and who cannot consent should definitely be used for ghouls and tourists to gawp at under the pretext of necessary education. I'm sure if it were your child you'd be first to volunteer them for some looky-loo twats to record forever and have a permanent record of what might be their final hours on Earth because the public so needs this. If someone too thick to not realise the government's response to this is shit and costs lives then quite frankly they're beyond redemption, the last thing that needs done is to use people who can't consent to try to shock them.

TheArchSorcererofContwaraburg · 11/04/2020 23:22

He's not there on a jolly - would people be less upset if it was a news anchor? It's vastly more acceptable to me than the images which normally appear on the news every night of starving children, refugees in war torn countries, all identifiable and with all agency taken away from them. Or even images from the US now - people moving body bags, burying coffins in mass graves.

None of that is acceptable and that such images are shown already doesn't mean this is at all acceptable. Fucking shameful and I'll never watch any of that git's stuff again.

Notredamn · 11/04/2020 23:29

Terrible.

saraclara · 11/04/2020 23:31

There have always been hospital documentaries involving patients who die. Why has this one got everyone up in arms?

In this hospital, the dying do get to have family members there with them. So the 'why should he be there when those people can't have visitors?' doesn't apply.

Notredamn · 11/04/2020 23:32

How exactly does a dying patient manage to give consent to be filmed?

TheArchSorcererofContwaraburg · 11/04/2020 23:37

Apparently, it's okay if just the families, who can't see them themselves, consent to their being filmed Hmm. Because you know, it needs to be done. I wouldn't want someone to be in there fucking filming me if I were on a vent, but you know, I'm sure loads of folks are falling over themselves to have their parents, their spouses, hell, some of them are even their children (my mate's son was 46 when he passed away earlier this week from the virus in an ICU) to let Ross Kemp and a cameraperson in there to make this vital instructional piece of propaganda for ghouls to tune into. Fucking fizzing at people doing this to critically ill patients and to tune into it is fucking shameful.

BelfryBat · 11/04/2020 23:37

@eeyore if you think the PPE won't be as perfectly stage managed as everything else, you're mistaken. If I end up in hospital with covid-19 I'll make it quite clear that I don't want to be used for publicity purposes.

Geepipe · 11/04/2020 23:40

Is amazing the ignorance people wished they lived in. Where nothing horrible was ever shown. So no more donations to oxfam because it was proven showing the children starving proved it was real and caused more people to donate. Ditto seeing the horrors in rwanda and iran and uganda proved the atrocities were real. Showing the reality of the inside of a uk hospital during a pandemic is literally no worse than whats on the news . Its necessary because people dont believe its real. People do believe its a normal flu and that reports of full icu's are lies or footage from abroad.

Geepipe · 11/04/2020 23:41

Also my cousin was in icu because of a pretty identifying accident and the press did show up because it was so unusual.

Its more weird people raging over something that doesnt affect them.

Hugt · 11/04/2020 23:49

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My wife is in intensive care in an induced coma. I am not allowed to go and see her, but Grant Mitchell is able to go and invade the ward. How on earth is this fair!? ^

I think this is why people are upset. Theres people unable to see relatives then seeing things like this

To think that Ross Kemp shouldn't be filming at MK Hospital?
nellythenarwhal · 11/04/2020 23:50

In this hospital, the dying do get to have family members there with them.

I checked and was very surprised to read this:

"We will try to allow visiting for a patient who is nearing the end of their life if possible and the decision for this will be down to the nurse in charge of the ward. Visiting will be limited to one person only and they will have to be prepared to wear personal protective equipment during their visit. The visitor will then have to self-isolate for 14 days after their visit."

https://www.mkuh.nhs.uk/coronavirus-covid-19

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