To say... it's a fucking VIRUS

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The number of posts on here about how the NHS have recommended "antibac" no they haven't. I wipe it with "antibac" why would you. I can't find any "antibac" handwash, you don't fucking need it.

AIBU to hope that people can learn the difference between a fucking virus and a bacteria. If it was a bacteria it would be called CORONA fucking BACTERIA!!!!

In any case "antibac" is a waste of time and money, use soap and water. FML.

@goingoverground I know that surfactants will sort the virus out. So tell me, why do people think "antibac" is more special than soap? Does all "antibac" have surfactant in? Is it all viricidal? Every single "antibac" product kills Coronavirus?

People relying on "antibac" will cause complacency, just like the wearing of gloves and ill fitting masks.

So tell me, why do people think "antibac" is more special than soap

Who thinks that?

It's been clear advice for people to wash their hands with soap and water.

Aibu to hate all the unnecessary swearing

I know what kills what, I have a biochemistry degree although I don't work in the field now. I just can't understand how people don't realise it's a virus even though it's in the name.

LOL ok. Thank you to you and your biochemistry degree for clearing that one up!

@chomalungma have you actually read a thread on here?

@littlemeitslyn probably. I don't care though... 🤷🏻‍♀️ It's important people
Understand what's active against what.

@tellmetostopbutikeepongoing you're welcome. Maybe you could take the baton and pass it on to the folk who are "antibaccing" their parsnips?

ave you actually read a thread on here

Maybe you could take the baton and pass it on to the folk who are "antibaccing" their parsnips

Do you think that some, if not most anti-bacterial products, are going to be effective against viruses?

I don't think you should be quite so aggressive and patronising considering you've only just learned that some 'antibacterial' products do indeed work against viruses.

This thread makes some funny reading!

Why are you so angry? Is it because it’s
sold out and you want it?

Im fine for soap thanks @marpan

@quarantina, genuinely, the daily mail has stories about people like you every day. I know what works against what. It's very clear that a lot of people don't. The misinformation on this site amongst myriad others is unhelpful.

@chomalungma yes, like soap is effective against both. What introduces risk is people who think "antibaccing" is the answer when they don't know what their "antibac" is effective against. But if you want to use something that's not effective, or if you don't care that people who can't or don't read the product info, are spending their money on snake oil... then well done you.

Take home message: this is a virus, "antibac" is a marketing ploy designed to exploit anxious people. Soap and water is more effective.

Wiping with antibacterial wipes might physically remove the virus.

Most antibacterial hand gels have 62% Ethanol, which denatures Covid-19.

Covid-19 is a fragile virus unlike Norovirus so antibacterial gel does work when it doesn't work for other viruses.

"antibac" is a marketing ploy designed to exploit anxious people

Or

Anti-bac is the wrong name for a product that is most likely to kill bacteria and viruses

I don't think it's a marketing ploy.

@Isla727 I'm not talking about hand gels, I'm talking about other household cleaning items that call themselves "antibacterial". The things that people are convinced will protect them against Coronavirus on their shopping.

I'm talking about other household cleaning items that call themselves "antibacterial

Can you give an example of what you are worried about?

What household cleaning items do you not think would work?

Interesting on Norovirus - a tough capsid based virus. Hard to kill

Coronavirus - looks much easier to kill with many everyday cleaning agents, containing surfactants

genuinely, the daily mail has stories about people like you every day. I know what works against what.

Your original post was you aggressively ranting about the ineffectiveness of antibacterial products against viruses because surely anyone with a brain realises that it's a coronaVIRUS not a coronaBACTERIA and on and on and on.

It has since been pointed out to you that some products labelled 'antibacterial' are also effective against viruses.

It's okay to be wrong, and there's no need to be so aggressive.

OP

I tell you what should be annoying you.

When they say the word 'antigen test' - when they are doing RT-PCR tests.

Because that really bugs me.

@chomalungma and the difference between antigen and antibody testing. Yes. Also frustrating.
I don't use "antibac" products in my house, I'm not conned into it by marketing, I just use soap and water.

@Quarantina again "some". "Some" people think that all "antibac" products are effective. But they're not. So... you want to do a public service announcement?

Pertinent article here, particularly last section about "Anti-bac versus disinfectants patient.info/news-and-features/covid-19-do-you-need-to-disinfect-your-home
I use this www.bioguardhygiene.co.uk/products/disinfectant-cleaning-solution/ to clean shopping that's been delivered plus other surfaces/handles etc.

@Theflushedzebra - decant the rubbing alcohol into small spray bottles and use as hand sanitizer.
I bought a 50ml spray and a litre bottle to top it up with back in February. Mine's 90 percent , so a bit drying, but seems to work well.

I don't think anyone has pointed out that if something kills 99.9% of bacteria, the ones (0.1%) it doesn't kill will multiply exponentially, and not be susceptible to the "anti-bac". Particularly relevant to bacteria so a bit off topic here.

OK well now I'm really confused. So do antibiotics kill viruses too then? Or is that a completely different thing?

I don't use "antibac" products in my house

I just use disinfectant in my house.

And soap and water for hands.

OP, you seem a little frothy at the mouth.

Many products labelled as antibacterial also are effect against viruses.

This is due to public perception that bacteria are "worse" and it's a marketing ploy.

It doesn't make it any less true that they're effective.

Antibiotics don't kill viruses

But the surfactant and alcohol in antibacterial sprays and gels can be effective against done viruses. Not all. But some.

No. Antibiotics don't kill viruses.

"Some" "antibac" kills viruses, largely because they are the same as soap and water but with a 50% price premium on them. Not all "antibacs" kill viruses. But you're not allowed to point that out because "some" do, and that is enough.

Antibiotics work inside the body, "antibac" work on surfaces. Or not, depending on what you're trying to kill.