Will you all be paying for Mumsnet Premium?

[WorraLiberty]

I'm not sure yet but I'll probably pay for a month and then see what other features they bring in.

Thread by Justine incase you haven't seen it

YABU = No

YANBU = Yes, I might give it a try

@tiggertogger ignore my previous post, this quarentine has screwed with my brain!

2017 profit after tax - 2,244,756
2016 - 1,698,263

In 2017 they had 87 company employees and paid out 3.4m in employee costs which is pretty much the same as 2016

Why should I pay for a service where I and other users generate the content? Really baffled. It is like FB asking me to pay

@LittleDragonGirl ha was just replying with a screenshot

I thought the biz model is we the users are the product that is monetised to make a profit.

Seems like a lot of money for not very much. I appreciate mumsnet a lot, I’ve learnt so much here. But £5 a month? For some chat? I can just go to reddit instead. I don’t use the rest of the website, so that bit is irrelevant. It has also irritated me that an edit button is suddenly happening after people have clamoured for it for years...as long as you stump up. Mumsnet is a lifeline for so many women in difficult circumstances - domestic abuse, financial abuse - seeing “mumsnet” on the bank statement would only put them in a more vulnerable position! It seems hugely unfair to discriminate and to create a two tier site. But if you do that, I suppose along with fewer ads, there will be fewer posters like me 🤷‍♀️

Is MN only going to allow those threads of the 'free' users to be lifted for fear of being sued by the 'premium' users?

Why on earth would premium users be able to sue? They'd still be providing the contant, and last time I looked there was little recourse for what an individual has chosen to post on a public site

Are only the 'free' users going to be banned if they go against talk guidelines?

On MN's own thread Justine has said they'll be treated just the same as paid members ...

So e sites I use have an edit button. You have a couple of minutes to change anything. But they also have things such as liking posts, and replying to posters directly is a whole lot either.

Small sites with nowhere near as much traffic as this place. Better features, many running for the same length of time and unlike MN have never been hacked.

When you let an intern do what they did, and how this place is run, it’s a joke they want us to pay their wages.

Adblocker if a site don’t want visitors to use it then they would but a blocker in place. Smaller sites I turn it off because their ads aren’t as intrusive.

£5 a month for something shoddily ran is shameful really. Just telling us all what we already know. Your clueless.

No, I won't be signing up. I'm furloughed and not sure I even have a job to go back to so won't be adding any additional subscriptions. £5 per month is what I pay for DDs athletics so I'd rather save my money for her

On MN's own thread Justine has said they'll be treated just the same as paid members ...

as if, they're hardly going to ban someone if it ends their funding.

2018 - total profit 2,221,308 so not much different from 2017/16 @tiggertogger

@morriseysquif
100 staff
c4.3m in staff costs

Not a chance, who pays to be on a forum that’s full of adverts, isn’t particularly user friendly and to possibly get lynched for posting something that doesn’t fit the mould.

Not only was there the employee who published the IP addresses but before that a hacker got a list of email addresses and passwords. Mine was one of the ones published on the internet.

As someone else posted we’ve always been the product. And now we’re expected to,pay to be the product. Fuck that, especially at £5 a month. Especially in the current climate with 20% pay cuts.

Anyway, have just down loaded a decent adblocker. So it’s all good.

What will be the detriment to the less affluent, exactly?

I wouldn't share my details like that. I don't even use my real email address - as others have said it's not secure. I've lost count of the number of data breaches over the years.

I'm the same.

Does someone have a link to a news report about the mumsnet employee that leaked everyones password, email and ip address?

No I sometimes think mumsnet is a black hole that sucks time and I regret ever going on it! So if they start charging, for me that's a good reason to stop using it.

^^ this!! My thoughts exactly

As I bet this is set up by MNHQ to try and gauge interest.

No I sometimes think mumsnet is a black hole that sucks time and I regret ever going on it! So if they start charging, for me that's a good reason to stop using it.

Exactly
I’m hoping they force charging for all!

@Bezalelle

I'll pay if they let LangCleg back.

Agree, if a respected, truthful poster as LangCleg can be permanently banned, that alone is reason for me not to pay

Never mind the security leaks and inconsistent moderation.

Surprised that advertising revenue would drop that much so quickly?

They’ve probably had a lot more traffic and had to increase and pay for more servers plus businesses running fewer adverts.
Difficult to run a site that’s supporting many more people on a daily basis if it costs more to do and the adverts are paying as much.

I’ll give it a go. I’ve been using MN for at least 15 years, I would hate to lose it.

On furlough, And probably being let go in May. And I have my mums care to pay for, rent, bills I’ll just have enough for noodles and basics next month so no.

No - I love MN but it is not a site I would be willing to pay for given that the users generate the content (in the same way I wouldn't pay for FB or Twitter).

Does it come with the "reduce obsessive and repetitive discussion of trans issues" feature? :)

Mumsnet has 100 staff??

If they introduced something so you could not use adblockers, I would just go elsewhere. Before corona virus I was mainly posting on reddit anyway.
But I agree that even if I was willing to pay, the issue of data protection would mean that I would not.
Email addresses are bad enough, but card details are a different ball game.