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Intuition.. people who made you go cold

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hollybollyy · 07/04/2020 05:23

Right so I'll preface this with it's my night off I can't sleep so I thought I would listen to 'let's not meet' do not listen to this podcast when alone at night! and god the stories have creeped me the fuck out.

My own story is that I once met a coworker on his first day. Something about him just made my blood run cold, I didn't want to be around him and I absolutely didn't want to work late alone with him.

6 years later he was in the news for being a serial rapist.

Mega creep.

Share your 'no this person is bad I cannot be near them' stories

Also my dog is an amazing judge of character if he doesn't like something or someone there's a reason

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Stargazer9 · 08/04/2020 19:17

The only time I've ever felt like this was 16 years ago. My then 2 year old had spent a few days in hospital and I was so happy that we were allowed to go home. I was just 20 and a single parent and had to order a taxi to get us home. The second I got in that taxi my good mood vanished and was replaced by a feeling of dread, my heart is beating and I can feel my adrenaline rising now just thinking about it. The taxi driver barely took his eyes off me in the rearview mirror and made me go cold. He made conversation with me all the way home and I was torn between wanting to shut the conversation down and continuing to answer because I was too scared not to. The whole way home I expected him to take an unexpected turn like they do in the films, I've never been so on edge. I felt so vulnerable with my little boy sat next to me and was so relieved to be out of that taxi, but it took me ages to shake off the worry that he knew where I lived. A PP hit the nail on the head - it felt like he was looking at me like I was prey.

looselegs · 08/04/2020 20:07

I work as a childminder. Years ago when I first started minding, I started looking after a little girl. She was very sweet. I never saw Mum,it was always Dad who dropped off.
I was never keen on him - gave me the creeps and I wasn't keen on the way he talked down to me sometimes, like he was better than me.
One morning they didn't turn up- I kept looking out for them but no sign of them. Dad then rang me about an hour later, asking me why I didn't answer the door to him- claimed he'd been ringing the bell and knocking the door, and even knocked the window. No way did he come to my house that morning! I don't know what he was trying to prove ,but by the way he spoke to me he was almost trying to be manipulative and trying to get one up on me?
They came back the next morning acting like nothing had happened.
They left my care not long after- then I found out that he was well known for knocking his wife around.

Honsandrebels · 08/04/2020 21:23

@stormbaby yes- he was looking at dd exactly like prey.

looselegs · 08/04/2020 21:31

I also remember when Channel 5 started and we had to have an engineer out to our houses to tune it in. As soon as I opened the door to him, I felt really uncomfortable. Dud not like him at all- don't know why,just instinct.
Anyway, he came in and started work
Felt extremely on edge all the time. Meanwhile, my dog- who I had shut in the kitchen- was barking like crazy. She loved people, and just wanted to play with them- that's why she was in the kitchen, so she didn't bother the engineer. Anyway, the engineer started asking if I was married, if I was alone in the house, when my husband would be home.....
All this time, my dog was constantly barking. She was a Staffy, but was a bit happy so sounded like something smaller, if you see what I mean. Anyway, in the end the engineer complained about her barking because it was constant! He asked me what dog it was, I told him and he said no way, not with a bark like that.
So I went and got her out the kitchen. Oh my God, I had never seen her react like she did towards this bloke. She went ballistic- luckily I was holding her collar because she reared up on her back legs, bared her teeth at him and was snarling like some rabid animal. Her ears went back and the fur all stood up along the middle of her back.
The engineer actually said " oh shit!"
I asked him if he wanted me to let her go, he just picked up his bag and left!
She had never reacted like that before, and never did again.

user1471565182 · 09/04/2020 00:04

Josef Fritzl my arse. Wasn't even German.

user1471565182 · 09/04/2020 00:05

ohhh and we've got Dr Death over here telling casual visitors to his south American home about his tests with Aryan children.

SpillTheTeaa · 09/04/2020 00:17

There was this older gentleman a few months back now. I was waiting for the bus with DS who was 3 months. He gave me the creeps. He was intently staring at DS so I moved his pushchair around so he couldn't see him. He then stared at me in the eyes and wouldn't drop eye contact so nor did I. He then moved seats at the bus stop so he could stare in to DS's pushchair again. By this point I told him to stop staring into my pushchair. He then got up walked off and went down some road... anyway 3 days later 2 little girls ran into the local co op saying a man who fitted this mans description tried to grab them. They ran into the co op for a shop worker to phone their parents.
Police were involved but clearly nothing happened as I've seen him since a few times outside a block of flats which look right into the school playground... apparently he lives in one of them. Absolute joke.

Another one was when I was in secondary school there was this teacher who just had evil eyes. I remember him just looking so evil. He got sent to prison for abusing many many school boys on residential trips. He even took some fishing.

Happyadventurer · 09/04/2020 08:52

@user1471565182 we’ve already done that. RTFT and try not to be such an arse yourself.

Wheresthesanitygone · 09/04/2020 08:58

sugarcherry we must have been living near each other. I still remember him trying to talk to me outside the toy shop there (Mathers?) I went home and told my mother how creepy he was and she got cross with me. Mind you she still didn’t believe anything after he died until there were so many stories it became impossible to deny.

pollysproggle · 09/04/2020 09:12

My sister had a boyfriend years ago who was very very good looking and charismatic but for some reason i couldn't warm to him, he made me feel very uncomfortable for no particular reason.
They were only together a few months when they had an argument which resulted in him screaming in her face and throwing something at her- the relationship ended there and then but he continued to turn up unannounced and send her vile messages.

Years later my sister sent me a newspaper article about him. He'd murdered his girlfriend in the most horrific and brutal way and had gone on the run.
Caught eventually and now in prison.

Pinnacular · 09/04/2020 12:19

A man that works at a flooring shop in an industrial estate in a South East city. Chillingly creepy. Never going there again. I'm expecting to see him in the news for offenses relating to animals, children, young women or all three.

Pinnacular · 09/04/2020 12:27

My mum used to work in a school with a man she instantly got a bad feeling from. She tried raising her worries but was always brushed off. She went out of her way to keep an eye on him and be present wherever she could but I know it really stressed her, and she never had any evidence just a very bad feeling.

There was a massive police operation for online paedophiles, he was investigated through their leads, and threw himself under a train.

SunshineCake · 09/04/2020 18:47

There was something Jimmy Savile said before he died and iirc it was about his gravestone and that set alarm bells going off with me. Then he died and...

Thisisgreen · 09/04/2020 21:44

I think there has only been 2-3 posts where people have said it was a female who gave them bad vibes. Why is this? Are males more likely to be inherently bad and females ok? It’s a huge imbalance in reporting negative vibes and I genuinely wonder why.

SummerWhisper · 09/04/2020 21:57

Johnny Depp. I just find him creepy, soz.

YakkityYakYakYak · 09/04/2020 22:01

@Thisisgreen that struck me too when I was reading through responses.

But to be fair there is a huge gender imbalance in those who rape and murder. So I guess it follows that men are more likely to seem dangerous, because they are more likely to actually be dangerous.

Shortfeet · 09/04/2020 22:10

@tulippa
Agree about the prison thing.
I've worked in a max security men's prison. The vast majority had done terrible things but seemed normal

touchtheceiling · 09/04/2020 22:35

Interesting that most (all?) of these stories are about men.

MoonAndMe19 · 10/04/2020 02:08

My ex's step dad, from the minute I saw him there was just something not right about him. He made me feel so uneasy for some reason. We later found out he had been in prison for abusing a 3 year old girl and was on the sex offenders register. Some time later the police were going to see him, they would check in on him every now and again, he was caught with a young girl in his van. Not much older than the one he had previously abused. I dread to think what he would have done to her had the police not shown up when they did!

Blackbirdblue30 · 10/04/2020 03:00

The one that sticks out for me was being on a busy shopping street passing a random man who just radiated evil. It was like a magnetic force pushing me back and I’ve never felt anything like it. He looked normal. Later that day he pushed someone under a bus.
Guy I knew through a social scene and gave me the creeps. I instinctively pushed him away when he just touched my arm. Found out years later he was a convicted rapist in a different country.
Had one session with a female counsellor who made me shiver she was so off. Years later she was convicted for defrauding large sums of money from vulnerable people.

I think the ‘prey’ thing is spot on; there must be some part of our primal brain that senses it.

StinkyWizzleteets · 10/04/2020 04:07

There was an art teacher at my school, stereotypical creep, long greasy hair, bottle bottom glasses, creepy stare used effectively to keep the kids under control. I hated being in his company alone (detention etc) - turned out he was just a lonely man who’s wife had left him and he wasn’t coping well. The handsome outgoing PE teacher that everyone loved? Well he was a different story... photographed in compromising positions with various underage pupils of both sexes. After I left the headteacher was put away for charges relating to child abuse and images, he too was charming and well loved.

The idea that bad men give off some kind of creepy evil vibe really doesn’t relate too well to most people’s experiences. There’s definitely a degree of confirmation bias in these stories. I know I’ve said out loud many times ‘oh he gives me the creeps’ but I could not link my saying that over the years to any instances of bad things happening To me or anyone else. That’s not to say bad things haven’t happened, just that intuition never actually played a part in any of it for me.

Graphista · 10/04/2020 05:05

I find these threads fascinating.

Due to my own history I’ve looked into what sets off our reactions like this and there’s considerable research on it.

We may think there isn’t anything there that we’re reacting to but often it’s there but subconscious.

Micro expressions, changes in body odour, body language, minor linguistic tics... all may be very subtle but enough to get our hackles up!

It’s happened to me a few times when as soon as I’ve met someone I’ve straight away gone “nope! Don’t like you!”

And I’ve been proven right almost every time, none as extreme as some here but they’ve variously turned out to be:

Con artists
Outright Thieves
Domestic abusers
Bullies
Or just fake in some way.

Oh with the exception of a local shopkeeper somewhere I lived as a child (army brat moved around a lot) who I wouldn’t even go in the shop. He committed suicide last year? Year before? Can’t remember, while on trial for molesting pre teen girls.

I have one person I’ve felt isn’t genuine who’s in one of my circles of friends and everyone else seems almost “smitten” with them and they’re described as almost saintly, yet I’ve never liked them and won’t have anything to do with them I wont even have them as a Facebook friend. Yet to be proven right on this one but I’m oddly still confident I will be despite seeming evidence to the contrary.

@Absoluteunit there’s some evidence that those who’ve experienced abuse themselves (which includes me) are - understandably - more likely to recognise other abusers, we’ve learnt the signs out of necessity. Being able to predict an abusers change of mood can be crucial. But sadly those who’ve experienced extreme abuse can go the other way and such behaviour, micro expressions etc are normalised so their “alert system” doesn’t work.

Have to say though I’ve also had the “reverse” experience where I’ve met people and instantly known they were a really good, kind, dependable person. And again I’ve been right almost every time.

The only times I ignored my “gut instincts” related to jobs and the bosses who interviewed me and offered me the jobs weren’t criminally off but they were shitty bosses and so after the 2nd time I resolved to never again ignore that instinct. My last job it was my boss’s boss who interviewed me and seemed fine so I wasn’t alerted to any issues...my actual boss was a fucking batshit cow who if she had interviewed me I’d have cut the interview short! Let alone rejected the job. I only found out after leaving the job that I was the 6th person in that role in 18 months largely because of her! The company knew but were struggling to get rid of her.

I’ve even had reactions to people appearing in press conferences about missing loved ones etc, now I know that sometimes this seems obvious as they’re invited to do the press conference because the police suspect them but thats not always the case.

There was one very odd one many years ago where this chap was appearing in regard to his missing girlfriend and the bus going to and the place/building he supposedly last saw her I had been present for both that night and they were not at all busy only a few people at either (small city hopper type bus only me and 1 other on it) and I definitely knew I’d not seen either of them there. Turned out he was lying his arse off and he’d murdered her. Was so weird because I felt like I needed to call police and say I’d been there and NOT seen them but it felt daft to report a lack of evidence? The place had cctv (buses still didn’t at this point) and the police knew before the press conference they’d not been there as it turns out but that didn’t come to light publicly until the trial months later. I was so relieved that I’d not actually “withheld” crucial evidenced. Very odd experience.

@ilovesushi even though he had his back to you, you may have noticed tension in his body plus stress/anxiety changes body odour so unless he was a pure psychopath chances are he was at least a little stressed with whatever he was trying to get away with and you subconsciously picked up on that?

pinkoneblueone · 10/04/2020 05:09

@Poppybeaumydarlinggirl when I was a teenager I was talking to a guy from Yorkshire who ‘lived with his brother’ he was called John M. I would call him up and talk to him until I met my husband and I was 15 at the time and there was something off about him he used the word ‘rumpy pumpy’ which made me think it was such a old man term not a 15 year old thing to say it made my skin crawl he was from Huddersfield. Your post reminded me of him. I have no idea if he was an old man or not but Suspect he was. Your post reminded me.

Mlou32 · 10/04/2020 06:48

This is really weird and I won't say who, but there is a poster on this thread who I got a really creepy feeling about as soon as I read their post. It was nothing about their story, it was just...them. And I know that sounds ridiculous because I haven't met anyone here and I certainly don't know them, but...

Iateallthecookies000 · 10/04/2020 09:08

Mlou32 Aye there are a few weirdos on Mumsnet Grin

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