Intuition.. people who made you go cold

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Right so I'll preface this with it's my night off I can't sleep so I thought I would listen to 'let's not meet' do not listen to this podcast when alone at night! and god the stories have creeped me the fuck out.

My own story is that I once met a coworker on his first day. Something about him just made my blood run cold, I didn't want to be around him and I absolutely didn't want to work late alone with him.

6 years later he was in the news for being a serial rapist.

Mega creep.

Share your 'no this person is bad I cannot be near them' stories

Also my dog is an amazing judge of character if he doesn't like something or someone there's a reason

Fritzl is from Austria.

@GinnyStrupac yes, of course. Fritzl is Austrian. I did know that, have no idea why I said German. Thanks for pointing it out.
It definitely was Fritzl though so my apologies to any German mumsnetters if I’ve caused any offence.

No offence, but thank you.

You must have been there in 1998 then?

I'm not sure if this is what you mean, but.
I knew that Fred West and Ian Huntley were guilty as soon as I saw them on the news.
I did mention it to friends, just as you do when you suspect something doesn't look right.
They suggested I went to the Police, both times, but I thought they'd laugh at me.
I am not a psychologist, but just knew.
I get a feeling about the McCanns too, but not that they did it, it wasn't very obvious to me. The feeling I got was that they knew something, but I think a lot of people saw this.

Yes, around about then. 98 or 99. I was doing some research on my dad who had been a Far East Prisoner of War. It was in a bar in Bangkok where we spent a few days before flying home.

How interesting.

Actually, I am not German.

He was there in '98 for a month, but also several other times for shorter periods.

I once read on here a poster said "only trust your gut instinct if it tells you to run", or something to that effect. I have had that feeling, a couple of times, but there is a middle ground and I suppose it depends on the circumstances, ie, where you are and if you're alone.

@GinnyStrupac I’m not good with dates. I thought 98 or 99 so I checked with my daughter and she thought it might have been 2001. I really dont want to say exactly because I might be wrong. I’ve been to Thailand a few times but that trip was the only one with my daughter.

I always had a feeling about my friend’s dad. He was creepy and I always detested him even through I can’t say why. This continued into adulthood and even now 40 years on I wonder if there’d been a few problems in her household.

Me and my dh work at the same place. He trains new employees and there was a young girl (about 19/20) he was mentoring. Instantly I got a bad feeling about her. Just didn't like her.. Something wasn't right. Few days later she tries to private message my husband.. He told me straight away and showed me the message.. It was just saying thank you for being a good mentor but again something was off I told him I don't trust her something isn't right he told her to email his professional account or feedback to management and not to message him privately.. I questioned myself thinking am I being a silly wife and jealous.. But that's not me. Never been that way before and everytime I saw her after at work I got a really bad feeling dh agreed and thought she seemed a bit odd. A month or so later she's fired and due to appear in court.. Falsely accused another male colleague of rape and lied about an apparent pregnancy to another male colleague showing up at his family home. All lies. Me and my dh have two small children.. No telling what lies could have been thought up and what damage it could have done to our family life.

I've written about this on here before but my daughter was walking along a road in her university town and got seriously bad vibes from a man walking in front of her. He didn't look round and was apparently unaware of her presence. But she had such a bad feeling about him that, wanting to get completely away from him, she crossed the road and went into a shop where the shop keeper excitedly pointed at the man with "That man there! Just out of prison for killing his wife and children"...

Not quite the same but another time I was at a local beauty spot with another daughter and independently we both got a very strong feeling that a man there was planning to commit suicide and was waiting for us all to leave... When we spoke about it afterwards and realised that we had both experienced exactly the same feeling from him, I kind of wish I had at least tried to speak to him. Don't know the outcome, only that I never came across a news story about it later.

Some of these are v scary!

I have heard some stories of people taking exception to those who “just seem odd” or “conversation not quite normal” etc. Often this happens to people who are on the ASD spectrum: not because they’re dodgy but because some individuals do struggle with the social norms and with language.

Saz12 makes a very good and important point.

I’m fascinated by threads like this. I’ve never had that feeling about a person before. Plenty of times walking on my own late at night when I’ve felt scared, goosebumps, metallic taste in my mouth from adrenaline. But this was more likely me knowing I was putting myself at danger and shouldn’t be.

Has The Gift of Fear been mentioned yet? It’s a fascinating book, the author also has lots of interviews on YouTube.

@Honsandrebels I had that recently with my stepdaughter. We were in the supermarket and she'd bought some biscuits with her own money so was in the queue ahead of me. There was a man in front, late 50s, asking her about what she'd bought and he was looking at her like she was prey. I'd not gave been surprised to see him actually lick his lips, it was just utter HUNGER. I literally picked her up, even though she's a young teenager, and plonked her behind me 😕

I don't think I have ever had this feeling at all, which scares me a bit.

Back in the late 70s my then boyfriend took me to a church which was really youth-friendly. The vicar was so lovely and I continued to go there for years. I went to see him for problems, he married us, we had our DS baptised by him. We moved away from the area but always went back to the church whenever we went "home".

About 11 years after we got married I was reading the paper and there is our priest having been convicted for sex abuse of boys, including several of the other teens that boyfriend and I had been friends with. Neither of us had any clue.

Not long after that came the news that the priest in our new church where we had moved to, who we were friends with, knew his wife and children, had been to parties at his house, baptised our DD, had also been arrested on the same grounds. Of course priest one had recommended priest two to us. I could happily have stood in the witness box and said they'd got it wrong. I had no clue. Absolutely no inkling.Yet he was also found guilty. How could we not know?

I meant to add, having read Saz12's comment, that we both have ASD. I wonder whether that would make a difference so that we wouldn't get these vibes?

I was a TA back in the 1990s and a colleague took an instant dislike to one of our new Y7s, saying he had dead eyes. She said he gave her the creeps, and she thought he was evil. I found him quite rude but that's nothing unusual for teenagers. I never liked him, but at the same time I didn't get any vibes off him and couldn't quite get what her issue was.

Shortly after leaving school this boy was convicted (with another ex pupil, who also never gave me the creeps) of the unprovoked murder of a complete stranger. The courts called it racially motivated, but TBH I think it would have been anyone who happened to cross their path. Their victim was sadly in the wrong place at the wrong time.

PoorlyWeasels, if you, and therefore everyone else, picked up on something being “wrong” they’d never have got near any victims. Some people are great at hiding their intentions.

I’ve only had proper terrors once, about a place/situation, not a person. I grew up v rural and am used to spending time in woodland at night. One time only I experienced a real proper terror of not walking down a particular path one evening. Not the kind of fear you get from reading/watching spooky stuff and an imagination (have had that plenty times!), but what felt like a knowledge of something terrible. It’s hard to explain how strong and free of doubt the fear was.

I went a different route instead!

Jimmy Saville. Lived near me. Always on the prowl in the local Italian restaurant. People used to smooch up to him, as well as the restaurant owner and staff.
I knew then he was a pervert and a total creep. He used to try and ingratiate himself with me and my girlfriends. And got absolutely nowhere.
Total sleezeball. But whenever me and friends expressed that feeling we were told we were wrong and told what a wonderful person he was.
OK, right........,,,,

Weasel, ime that stuff flies under the radar. I consider myself pretty astute but I totally missed something similar ie sexual abuse practically under my nose

I've never had anything like this. I always quite liked Jimmy Savile, for instance; and had I but been single at the time we met I'd probably have married someone who later went to prison for photographing his pupils while they got changed.

I think I'm on the autistic spectrum (various behaviours consistent with that idea).

I do have kind of the opposite in that I think I give off tremendous "fuck-off" vibes: no-one once tried to touch my stomach while I was pregnant

To be honest what I find scarier are the ones you here suspected. A teacher who I adored at school and never ever made anyone feel uncomfortable or creeped out has been convicted of being in a peadofile ring. No one suspected anything, least of all me. That makes my blood run cold.

My DM couldn't stand a guy who started at her work, but couldn't work out why. She was really nice to him and gave him lifts home. A few weeks later he staved his Dad's head in with a spade. Still makes me shudder to think of her in the car alone with him.

Another one was when I was on the tube and two blokes got on. One sat opposite me and the other at the end, and they were making signs to each other and looking at my handbag. I freaked out and KNEW they were planning something, so I got off at the next stop and immediately turned around on the platform and stared at them until the doors closed so they didn't follow me. Still makes me wonder what they would have done...

I wonder if we can pick up on bad energy connected with people wishing us harm? I was walking home behind a tall, thin man once and I swear I couldn't take my eyes off of him, like a morbid fascination. He turned right into an alleyway and as I walked past he was masturbating and said "suck on this". Weird thing was it didn't surprise me, it was almost like I knew from how he walked and the back view of him that he was going to do something bad. He didn't once turn round when I was walking behind him so must have been watching me in the reflections in the shop and car windows as we passed.

When I was a teenager, my friend's Dad took me into his locked, private room to see his collection of dolls. He kept it locked because his own kids weren't allowed to play with the dolls and only I was allowed in. It was not a big room and every conceivable space was filled with pale, blank faced dolls in Victorian dress and he stood very close. I have never suffered with claustrophobia but I was too scared to speak and almost ran when he held the door open so I could leave.

Two managers at work in the 80s, my old minister, bloke in the corner shop, a bloke who interviewed me for a well known brand, friend's Dad, all gave me really bad vibes. All found to be perverts of some persuasion. Sometimes I cant put my finger on why i dislike someone but most of the time it is either because they are perverts or really unpleasant under the fluff and bluster they display to others.