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Queens speech

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Imfinallyhappy1 · 04/04/2020 23:05

Am I the only one who actually couldn’t give a shiny shit what she has to say at this time.

People are dying , everyone is affected so the last thing we need is a rich old woman sitting in her ivory castle asking us to stay calm.

It’s really wound me up, it’s constantly being mentioned on the news!

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snappycamper · 05/04/2020 21:09

She's put in 65 years of slog with bells on, but slog nonetheless. She won't give a toss about my respect, but it's there.

The queen's job is not a slog. There's a reason the royals all live to be extremely elderly. None of them have ever done a day's work.

Mamamia456 · 05/04/2020 21:10

Ilovesooty - That's not her job to tell people to stick to the guidelines.

I thought it was a very heartfelt speech. 🇬🇧

ChicChicChicChiclana · 05/04/2020 21:11

"The queen's job is not a slog. There's a reason the royals all live to be extremely elderly. None of them have ever done a day's work."

Who actually believes this? Only the terminally stupid.

MarshaBradyo · 05/04/2020 21:12

Nellodee ha yes agree.

She does a very good pause and the blighters who put it together were right to add footage of every day people (teary).

paintedsmile77 · 05/04/2020 21:14

MrsB oh come on, do you really think it wouldn't be made known. It would be such good PR. And they DO let us know when they make donations. They don't keep them secret. Someone up above listed them (though not much). The queen is miserly, always has been.

ChicChicChicChiclana · 05/04/2020 21:14

All you utter twats saying you'd be happy if she made a personal donation - how do you suggest she publicises that?

StylishMummy · 05/04/2020 21:14

@snappycamper I think you're probably supremely unintelligent. How many 93 year olds are still carrying out their daily job and will do until they expire? She is at the beck and call of parliament and the nation, with constant criticism & you think she's done no work?

Northernwarrior · 05/04/2020 21:14

I’m not interested in what she has to say but a lot of people look to her and see it as her duty to address the nation. To be fair in the war more people died and the royals were expected to address the nation. Also the queen got stuck in as a mechanic.

cricketballs3 · 05/04/2020 21:17

@ChicChicChicChiclana perfect post

Didiusfalco · 05/04/2020 21:17

I wouldn't have described myself as a monarchist, but I enjoyed it. I thought she hit all the right notes, and I was surprised to find myself feeling slightly emotional.

ravenmum · 05/04/2020 21:18

"Better days will return", i.e. happy days will be here again, too.

I think they've brought her out before Easter (hence the timing) to tell a certain group of people that OP doesn't belong to to stay at home, in a language they will understand, and appealing positive to their view of themselves as being sensible and compassionate, rather than moaning at people for going out too much and threatening to give them a smack if they do it again.

Whatever might help.

LaurieMarlow · 05/04/2020 21:19

An appropriate action would be to return some of the Sovereign Grant for this year and for it to be deployed to the NHS.

After all, their expenses will be greatly reduced with no travel or entertaining for the foreseeable.

audreysview · 05/04/2020 21:19

Chicchic How do you think, the same way it’s been known before. Why would it be a problem.....You sound very angry at ordinary people suffering....but not at the super privileged RF who cares not a bloody toss about the rest of us. Get your damn priorities right, instead of calling us twats.

UYScuti · 05/04/2020 21:22

I'm normally anti royal but I felt comforted by the Queen's speech today

MadeForThis · 05/04/2020 21:23

Why would there be a problem with advertising she has made a donation? Genuine question.

In this time of crisis the royal family have donated £xxx to help the nation.

What's the problem with that?

ChicChicChicChiclana · 05/04/2020 21:28

I sound "very angry at ordinary people suffering" ? Do I?

LuluJakey1 · 05/04/2020 21:29

There is such ignorance in this thread about understanding what is public and what is private money and what The Queen is allowedto do with private money.

She does not own Buckingham Palace, Windsor Castle, the Windsor Castle Estate , any of the Crown Estates with their 11,000 properties- including the houses of Prince Edward and Prince Andrew and Prince Harry. She does not own the Crown Jewels, or the Royal Jewels. She does not own the Royal Art Collection, or the other art treasures, rare books etc.

She owns a stamp collection, Balmoral and Sandringham and no doubt a portfolio of shares and investments- not unusual for someone who comes from the background which she does. Many aristocrats are much richer than The Queen:
The Duke of Westminster
The Duke of Northumberland
Earl Cadogan
The Duke of Devonshire
The Duke of Atholl
to name but a few.
She is about the 20th richest aristocrat.

Edward and Andrew lease their houses from the Crown Estate and pay the estate millions for a lease of about 40 years. I think Andrew paid about 18million to lease Windsor Great Lodge plus the costs of upgrading and maintaining it when The Queen Mother died.

All of the monies raised by the estate of The Duchy of Lancaster (which includes the Crown Estates) are highly taxed and the rest given to the government who give a grant back to the sovereign to support her work and the Royal properties. This money is not personal money and is accounted for by The Master of the Privy Purse and a committee to the government on an annual basis.

As I linked to in a previous post, there are many examples- they were just a few- of The Queen making private donations to charities, disaster relief funds etc. She does so privately unless the charity reveals she has done so and the BP confirm it.

Where are Branson, Ashley, Dyson, Martin, Greene, Stelios (all richer than The Queen) and the aristocrats listed above in your thinking about donations?

The first 6 are claiming 80% of the money for their staff wages from the government, apart from Martin who has refused to even pay the 20% for his staff and told them to go and work in Tesco. Branson, Greene, Dyson and Stelios are tax exiles. Where are they in your 'don't give a shiny shit' thinking?

EffervescentElephant · 05/04/2020 21:30

@ChicChicChicChiclana only the terminally stupid believe in the divine right of leading the country because one is born rom a certain family rather than from democratic election and own merit. I despise the monarchy and despise all royalists: serfs, you are natural born serfs. Go genuflect in from of your queen, you serf.

EffervescentElephant · 05/04/2020 21:31

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cherrybunx0 · 05/04/2020 21:39

I'd love to say it made me feel better and that I think it will "rally" the troops but unfortunately it didnt and it wont. we still have no idea how long this could be going on for, all we see in the news every day is how many are dying and how far away a vaccine is. I am also seeing suicides and domestic violence deaths posted so it's fairly hard to be bolstered up right now especially when I live in a tiny little place with a young baby and no garden (although I am fortunate enough to be near a field) just because someone who is much better off than me claims better days are surely on there way.

more testing, proper protective equipment for our front line workers and a realistic end goal would make me feel better, not this attempting to bring us all together speech - sorry to sound negative but I'd rather just be told how it actually is (ie. how long lockdown actually is likely to be, how much this is going to cost the average citizen, when my self employed partner will definitley get this 80 percent grant).

LaurieMarlow · 05/04/2020 21:40

She does not own the Crown Jewels, or the Royal Jewels. She does not own the Royal Art Collection, or the other art treasures, rare books etc.

She doesn’t technically own them, no.

But she has free, unfettered access to them during her lifetime and the rest of us ... don’t.

So, the fact that she doesn’t technically own them doesn’t have much meaning, does it?

Alsohuman · 05/04/2020 21:41

Educate yourself before spouting out your opinion masqueraded as fact.

It is fact. It just doesn’t support your prejudice.

snappycamper · 05/04/2020 21:41

@snappycamper I think you're probably supremely unintelligent.

Thanks for sharing your views on my IQ. I think EffervescentElephant has summed up my views on royalists and I'll be off now to return my 1st class Cambridge degree.

LuluJakey1 · 05/04/2020 21:41

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daisychain01 · 05/04/2020 21:42

I'd like to see if she is going to be giving money to worthy causes such as the nhs. Or using her power to get better ppe for key workers

She's hardly going to use her speech to big herself up and waste time being the big I am.

Maybe she will help by giving access to her huge properties Instead of makeshift hospitals in conference centres!

The Excel Centre, now NHS Nightingale, is a far more appropriate location for a field hospital that an old stately home ffs. Have you seen it - it's amazing, took only 2 weeks to bring it all together. You'd never have done that at Windsor Castle.