Boris MIA again?

[Sarahlou63]

Anyone think it's rather strange that Boris is still out of action and that, yet again, he's nowhere to be seen - a repeat of the election and the floods....

The UK are near the bottom of ICUs per head of the population in the EU chart. I would be surprised if we were not already short of ventilators. Our health service has been severely under-funded since Cameron and the Coalition Govt.

Public Health England changed the regulations to suit the availability of equipment. There's been a lot about it in the press and Dr Jennie Harris had to answer questions about from journalists in the daily briefings.

We have had since January to organise it. We didn't need to wait until March. People have been screaming about PPE shortages since January, to no avail. At this point, there are people on my facebook group making stuff for the local hospital with their sewing machines, at the hospital staff's request!

We have NHS Trusts attempting to buy scrubs from a fetish site! nypost.com/2020/03/31/fetish-company-donates-entire-stock-of-cosplay-scrubs-to-uk-hospital/

This didn't come out of nowhere to the UK. We saw what was happening, and we had time to prepare. We didn't need to wait until the whole of Europe was trying to buy the same equipment.

Also, Northern Italy should have been put on the list of areas that warranted 14 days of quarantine about two days before it was. Similarly, the whole of Italy should have been put on the same list, about two days before it was.

Pothole I don’t understand? We had EXACTLY the same notice as the rest of the world. Do you know think that countries have been preparing for this since the truth from China was revealed? We didn’t have some head start that we just ignored?

Don’t you think everything that is in place now has been weeks if kit a few months in the making behind the scenes?

There isn't much of anything in place, is there.

Again, my local hospital has volunteers making scrubs for them... now. If scrubs are so easy to make that the ones volunteers make are welcome, then we could have sorted out a contract with a professional clothes manufacturer in January.

Volunteers are 3D printing masks and publicising the instructions for other people with 3D printers... now.

This should have been done or requested months ago, so that staff could have received this largesse already. It is all incredibly lastminute.com.

Daily mail link, dated 30th March
www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-8168937/Nurse-gathered-thousands-volunteers-make-scrubs-NHS-workers-homes.html
Thousands of costume designers, tailors and seamstresses have come together to make urgently-needed scrubs forNHSworkers in a nationwide effort coordinated by an A&E nurse.

Ashleigh Linsdell, 29, who isa nurse at Pilgrim Hospital in Boston, Lincolnshire, set up Facebook group,For The Love Of Scrubs, last Monday.

More than 9,000 people have since joined tohelp make PPE clothing from their homes, but they are in desperate need of funding.Self-taught seamstress Ashleigh, said she started making scrubs for her colleagues a week ago, after they ran out and had to wear 'undignified' paper clothing.

She said: 'Imagine wearing a set of paper scrubs for an entire shift.

'They're not dignified - if you bend over they split, it's just horrible.

Ashleigh who has a four-year-old daughter, said she appealed for help sourcing wholesale material for her homemade scrubs on a Facebook group, and within two days received messages from hundreds of people who were 'desperate to help.'

Having been a nurse for seven years, she revealed that healthcare workers can get through more than 10 sets of scrubs per shift, especially those working in 'covid zones' who have to change more than usual to avoid spreading the virus.

Ashleigh said within the first two days of setting up For The Love Of Scrubs, an army of volunteers made 260 sets of scrubs for their local hospitals.

They will be posted directly to launderettes at 20 hospitals around the UK, where they are washed before being used to ensure coronavirus is not passed on through them.

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Why has it fallen to a nurse who already has her own job as a nurse to organise this in March?

Continuing the scrub theme...

Meanwhile, in Milton Keynes, staff at a clothes factory are fundraising to pay for materials to make scrubs. Scrubs cost approximate £5 per set to make scrubs.

www.miltonkeynes.co.uk/health/coronavirus/furloughed-clothing-company-staff-pitch-make-vital-scrubs-hospital-workers-milton-keynes-2527241

They've now finished fundraising, got the patterns and will kick off with it this week.

Which is all brilliant, but calls into question why they and companies like them weren't approached through official channels a while back.

Didn't Matt Hancick say that we have enough ventilators at present?

He's hardly going to say that we don't is he?

Have a heart OP.
Crikey.

@TimeForDinnerDinnerDinner, check the date of the first post. The OP started this thread days ago.

He only went into hospital yesterday.

Ventilarors There is a shortage! Financial Times started this just days ago...
The National Health Service now has access to 8,175 ventilators, including 691 from private hospitals and a handful from the Ministry of Defence
But government officials have asked UK industry to deliver 5,000 within a month, with a total requirement for 30,000 to support patients expected to have severe respiratory difficulties as the virus spreads. This is a problem as the largest manufacturers of the devices are overseas

Ventilators and this from Reuters

Britain faces a “massive shortage” of ventilators that will be needed to treat critically ill patients suffering from coronavirus, after it failed to invest enough in intensive care equipment, a leading ventilator manufacturer

"He's hardly going to say that we don't is he?"

That's an interesting point.

When we have members of the government making statements that are untrue, will this strengthen the nation's confidence in the government?

Do they expect us to believe them next time they make a statement?

Ventilators........and this from the BBC

"And there has been ambiguity in the the government's messaging. On 23 March, Mr Hancock was asked on the Today programme: "Have any new ventilators been made?"

He replied: "Yes, we've made serious progress on that. There's now over 12,000 that we have managed to get to."

But nearly two weeks later the NHS still only has access to 8,000 ventilators - although new deliveries are expected in the coming weeks.

Do they expect us to believe them next time they make a statement?

They do.
I would not.

I wish him a full and speedy recovery.

I wish all victims of Covid 19 a full and speedy recovery

We 100% don't have enough ventilators. My sister is currently in hospital (main hospital in a large city) with pneumonia. She doesn't have coronavirus thankfully but goes into hospital 2-3 times a year with her chronic lung condition. Even though she isn't critical as yet, her consultant made it clear to her on Thursday that as she's considered as having lung failure, if her health deteriorates and she ends up needing a ventilator she won't be eligible for one as there aren't enough and healthier patients who have a better chance of recovery will be prioritised. It's horrendous. She's 39 with 2 children. They've also limited her oxygen - she's normally be on 7 litres I think she said, but they've only put her on 1 as they need to make sure there's enough for Covid patients. Needless to say she's not feeling very safe right now and is desperate to get home.

YorkshirePud1
That's very unfair. I hope she recovers well.

I suppose there are still spare ventilators across the country, but not in covid current hotspots like London, and they will be in short supply elsewhere soon, probably.
It's all a game of words.
"We have enough ventilators now." For, there are still hospitals that are not at full capacity, right this minute, somewhere in the country, but not saying anything about big cities or what happens in a week.

YorkshirePud
That’s terrible! I hope your dsis will recover. This is the sort of scandal, which needs to hit the headlines. 😞

Why has she not been offered an oxygen concentrator?

Thanks. I think she will as long as she doesn't catch Covid-19 in hospital - she's been more ill than this before and pulled through, but she's very worried. She said that it feels so much worse in hospital than people are being lead to believe - I guess as someone so used to being in there, she can see how bad things are at the moment. I'm not sure about an oxygen concentrator - I'll ask her as am due to FaceTime her this evening. She's enquired about having oxygen at home and to finish her course of antibiotics at home too, but she's on 3 different IV antibiotics so not sure how that would work. She's terrified though that the longer she's in there, the more likely she is to catch it and she just wouldn't survive it. It's all just horrible for so many people.

I've just heard he's in ICU.

Yes, it’s being reported on all the news channels.

Does his being in ICU help you feel he isn't faking it???!!

He s human, not a machine and he s very ill in ICU right now.
I doubt I could do my job if I had covid 19.
Poor Boris

Sarahlou63 has gone quiet.....