Starting to get annoyed at people who don't think rules apply to them

[WelcomeToShootingStars]

So the rules say we can go outside for 1 form of exercise a day. Yet I see so many people saying things like "but we live in the countryside and it's quiet", or "my dog is used to 3 walks a day" etc

Then there's the newer stipulation of not driving anywhere non essential. And yet I see people saying it's OK less than 10 miles, or it's OK if you're driving somewhere remote to exercise.

Why are people unable to make such a tiny miniscule sacrifice? And why do they think the rules (designed to keep everybody safe) apply to everybody else but them?

But no one is holding you home against your will? You are staying there for your own protection.

You can go out if want to.

@Janus

Why should we that live in the country (myself here too) have the luxury of 10 walks a day when those in the city don’t. It’s not fair, it’s selfish, it’s self centred.

LOL no it's not! What a ludicrous thing to say.

If someone lives in a very high density area and doesn't have the luxury of being able to go for long walks without seeing a soul for an hour, that's not the fault of people who CAN.

I live rural and can walk for 2-3 miles without seeing anyone. And I will if I want to. I'm not gonna not do it because the people in the cities and big towns can't!

If I earn twice as much money as someone, should I go on the same shitty long weekend to Blackpool that they go on, instead of going to Portugal like I planned, because they can't afford it... Of course not. If others can't afford something and I can, or can't do something when I can, that's just life I'm afraid.

You're deluded if you think I won't do something, because someone else can't, because you claim it's "UNFAIR........"

But no one is holding you home against your will? You are staying there for your own protection.

You can go out if want to.

I could. But how selfish would I have to be to do that? If I catch it I will definitely end up in hospital. Whether I would receive ITU care if I needed it I honestly don't know but either way I would be stopping someone else from receiving the care and risking the lives of health care workers. How could I justify that, just because I want to go.out?

anotherlittlechicken

What a charmer.

Staying in is for the protection of others as much as for one’s own protection. Give it a minute - the penny might drop...

So what is your solution? Everybody stays in for as long as you have to?
Not going to happen.

It might be easier of you if you just accepted it and got on with it.

I could. But how selfish would I have to be to do that?

Exactly. It’s about having a bit of moral fibre something that is clearly alien to some.

So what is your solution? Everybody stays in for as long as you have to?

For everyone to stay in as long as necessary.

Not going to happen.

Clearly, because some people are incredibly selfish it would seem.

Dances
AIBU isn't a good judge of the majority though.

If it was then any after work drinks with colleagues would be an affair waiting to happen, nobody would ever mow their lawn because it's nuisance noise, and MIL is always a narc.

The same applies to drivers. It’s the old “But what if...” thing again. If you go out for a drive for no good (aka necessary) reason, and you happen to be involved in a road accident, for instance, you are going to divert the attention and focus of the police, medics etc to you, the selfish one. The time devoted to you might have helped someone else who is vulnerable or in need.

For everyone to stay in as long as necessary.

That's not what I asked, what I asked is if you wanted everybody to stay in as long as you?

Also, I must go to work, despite the worry about the Tube, because of the nature of my work, and because I need the money. Am I selfish?

You must be independently wealthy to be able to stay in. I cannot do that.

So, for you it might be necessary to stay in for months, do you want everybody else to stay in for months as well?

What are we all going to eat, drink and wear then?

@WelcomeToShootingStars
No, I’m not ludicrous, I’m just taking this very seriously and even though I could go for countless walks a day and encounter no one I’m not. I’m sticking to one form of exercise a day like the police/nhs are guiding us to do. Don’t think I’m the ludicrous one but you go on doing exactly what YOU want and don’t worry about all the others eh?

ChardonnaysPetDragon

Not wealthy at all, quite the opposite in fact. I don't know how those of us are shielded will manage, especially as this is going to last many months for us. Any ideas?

And yes, people should be staying in for as long as the government deem it to be necessary.

So, for you it might be necessary to stay in for months, do you want everybody else to stay in for months as well?

What are we all going to eat, drink and wear then?

I don't know. What are we expected to eat, drink and wear?

And yes, people should be staying in for as long as the government deem it to be necessary

So would that be for as long as you have to stay in?

Hooves - I’ve signed up for the nhs Sam, I believe these volunteers will be taking food packs to those who can’t get out?? I get the first email tomorrow, I’ll see what it says.

Do you think the fairies produce and deliver everything you need? Where do you think it will come from if we all bunker down for months?

So would that be for as long as you have to stay in?

No, it won't be. It will be until the curve has been flattened enough to allow many of you to relax the rules a bit but to get to that point people will have to accept some loss of freedom.

Janus

I've seen it. I don't need it because my husband can shop for us if really necessary and I don't want to take away from the people who really need it.

It's incredibly slow though given people have already been shielding for a week, the first boxes aren't going out until this week and from what they announced yesterday only contain absolute basics - cereal, fruit, tinned goods and tea bags he said yesterday.

Do you think the fairies produce and deliver everything you need? Where do you think it will come from if we all bunker down for months?

We don't have the right to expect people to risk their lives if we aren't prepared to follow some simple rules.

I'll make it clear. My husband and I are shielding. I'm not jealous of people who are going out as I don't want to be out. I want us both to survive and enjoy many years ahead of us, and the sacrifice of a small number of months seems a sensible one in that regard. We're very fortunate, we've had many offers of help and we've been able to get food delivered thus far.

I just find it increasingly selfish how little regard some people appear to have for others. I get that if you're remote you probably won't encounter other people. But I also think that your need to have multiple walks or runs or cycles each day isn't actually that urgent or important.

The lady who said she drives so she can run alongside her children - to me that just sounds ridiculous. You don't NEED to run. You could walk alongside your children. By driving to another area you're imposing yourself on those who are actually local enough to be using it on foot.

I can't fathom anybody claiming they can't just open their front door and walk, so have to get in a car and drive somewhere, then open that door and walk instead. Foregoing the exercise of walking in order to get exercise seems to be a little bizarre.

No, it won't be. It will be until the curve has been flattened enough to allow many of you to relax the rules a bit but to get to that point people will have to accept some loss of freedom.

Finally.

That wasn't too difficult, was it.

ChardonnaysPetDragon

No idea what you are talking about. I'd already answered the question.

The point is people aren't staying in are they? They are going out several times a day, driving to s quieter spot, driving somewhere to teach their kids to ride bikes and on and on and on.

@Janus

What now??

WelcomeToShootingStars
No, I’m not ludicrous, I’m just taking this very seriously and even though I could go for countless walks a day and encounter no one I’m not. I’m sticking to one form of exercise a day like the police/nhs are guiding us to do. Don’t think I’m the ludicrous one but you go on doing exactly what YOU want and don’t worry about all the others eh?

"Our local police have put it on Facebook that you HAVE to walk from home, you CANNOT drive to walk your dogs or do exercise. They must have got that law from somewhere??"
Nope, they have expanded the truth....boris said to keep it local. He did not say you cannot drive to your walk, neither does the legislation.

They aren't contradicting the WHO report. WHO has said that it isn't airborne. The study that found it remained in the air also didn't say it was airborne just that the droplets were found remaining in the air after three hours.

Presumably the experts advising the gvt also know this but have weighed up the risks of people catching it from three hour old droplets in the air, against the consequences of lack of exercise and fresh air if no one were allowed to go outside.

As people have already pointed out, the point of lockdown is to slow down the spread so that the health services are not overwhelmed at the same time, not remove the threat of getting it altogether.