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Starting to get annoyed at people who don't think rules apply to them

336 replies

WelcomeToShootingStars · 30/03/2020 08:42

So the rules say we can go outside for 1 form of exercise a day. Yet I see so many people saying things like "but we live in the countryside and it's quiet", or "my dog is used to 3 walks a day" etc

Then there's the newer stipulation of not driving anywhere non essential. And yet I see people saying it's OK less than 10 miles, or it's OK if you're driving somewhere remote to exercise.

Why are people unable to make such a tiny miniscule sacrifice? And why do they think the rules (designed to keep everybody safe) apply to everybody else but them?

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Wewearpinkonwednesdays · 30/03/2020 13:06

I think partly because rules are there 'for the obedience of fools and the guidance of wise men'.

This sums it up nicely. It seems an awful lot of people can't seem to apply common sense in this situation. It's quite frightening how many people will blindly follow rules and insist others follow rules, no matter what the individual situation.

Dances · 30/03/2020 13:10

Or maybe just curtain twitching fuckers Lola

Alsohuman · 30/03/2020 13:13

rules are there 'for the obedience of fools and the guidance of wise men'

I love this, it’s so true.

TheFuckingDogs · 30/03/2020 13:15

I also love this saying! Sums it up perfectly. It really is fucking terrifying how some within society will blindly follow any instruction they’re told by those in power - really has opened my eyes to how scary nazi societies begin 😳

LolaSmiles · 30/03/2020 13:18

Most people aren't curtain twitchers though.

Most people are entirely reasonable people doing their best during a difficult time and show consideration for others too. They get the spirit of guidance and the letter of the law. They're unlikely to bat an eye lid if one day someone takes the children for some exercise and walk the dogs separately because it's safer to take the children on their bikes separate to the dog walking and they're not going to be out more than an hour in total.

Others know fine well they're being unreasonable and selfish but post whining threads on MN where they're clearly seeking validation for actions that they already know are a bit unreasonable because otherwise they'd have just done it.

Dances · 30/03/2020 13:19

Good quote. I am getting tired of the curtain twitching Stasi, commenting on gardening and feck knows what else. AIBU is fecking overrun with petty minded tinpot dictators

TheWordmeister · 30/03/2020 13:19

Ridiculous to be so bloody literal. I live in the countryside and could go out 10 times (I don’t) and not see a soul. It’s about being sensible. If you live in suburbia, you’re going to meet people.

Lynda07 · 30/03/2020 13:20

LolaSmiles - marvellous post!

Dances · 30/03/2020 13:22

Not from what I gave been reading on AIBU Lola. I'm seeing a lot if people getting off on telling people they are cunts for doing the gardening or basically not being as fecking miserable and small minded as they are. God forbid some people can get through this without becoming a sour faced fucker

fourpeasinapod · 30/03/2020 13:23

I agree with you, OP. People are just blatantly ignorant.

The government aren’t imposing these restrictions to spoil our fun, it’s so we can beat this virus quicker and minimise the destruction that it will cause.

However, I personally see no problem taking exercise more than once a day as long as they are in open spaces and keep away from other people. I take my dog out about 4 times a day but I keep myself distanced from others.

Lynda07 · 30/03/2020 13:24

Dances Mon 30-Mar-20 13:19:10
Good quote. I am getting tired of the curtain twitching Stasi, commenting on gardening and feck knows what else. AIBU is fecking overrun with petty minded tinpot dictators.
......
Yes! You missed out "My friend claims £X more in benefits than me cos they don't know her boyfriend leaves his clothes there but I seen pictures on facebook. Should I report her?"

Where will it end?

There are no 'friends'

Alsohuman · 30/03/2020 13:30

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Hearhoovesthinkzebras · 30/03/2020 13:34

Please link to those (seemingly implausible) studies as they seem to contradict the WHO advice.

They aren't contradicting the WHO report. WHO has said that it isn't airborne. The study that found it remained in the air also didn't say it was airborne just that the droplets were found remaining in the air after three hours.

Hearhoovesthinkzebras · 30/03/2020 13:36

Alsohuman

Why?

Virus has been found in the air for up to three hours.

Why is it "fucking stupid" as you so eloquently put it to suggest that this is a possible route of transmission?

TheWordmeister · 30/03/2020 13:36

for the obedience of fools and the guidance of wise men

This needs to be pinned somewhere on MN!

Hearhoovesthinkzebras · 30/03/2020 13:39

This sums it up nicely. It seems an awful lot of people can't seem to apply common sense in this situation. It's quite frightening how many people will blindly follow rules and insist others follow rules, no matter what the individual situation.

Do you think you would have this same feeling if you end up in ICU desperately hoping there's a ventilator free for you?

Would you still think people were fools for following guidance?

BelleharePenguin09 · 30/03/2020 13:39

really has opened my eyes to how scary nazi societies begin 😳

Oh fgs try to develop a sense of proportion.

Hearhoovesthinkzebras · 30/03/2020 13:43

I think when lockdown is gradually relaxed (and that time WILL come thank god) then the shielded will be asked to remain indoors and on strict for longer.

I think it will remain until a vaccine is available.

Amazing how we're just expected to be able to manage our mental and physical health without leaving the house at all, likely for many, many months. However, as I'm seeing on MN, the elderly and chronically sick are seen by many as entirely dispensable

Ponoka7 · 30/03/2020 13:45

"The government aren’t imposing these restrictions to spoil our fun, it’s so we can beat this virus quicker and minimise the destruction that it will cause."

Some of us won't beat it. It will still be waiting for us when the restrictions are lifted. It won't matter how many ventilators are available, because we were never a candidate for one anyway. Tje over 60's with health problems just now have to hope their luck holds out. But that's how it was when i was growing up. A, lot of men had died of heart attacks by then. Those who are now 65+ consider themselves fortunate.

So i have some sympathy for people, like Kinnock who made the decision to visit their Parent, on what could be their last Birthday.

Some senior Medical/science officers are saying that it was put to the government on the 30th January that we needed a lock down. It took eleven weeks. That's why we have deaths in the numbers that we do, in the UK. Businesses aren't imposing enough rules. Public transport has got less, so we are packing on. So of course there will be more deaths.

I can't resent an act which isn't putting other people in danger just because it follows one of the rules, decided upon by this government. While in some cases the people are being forced into risk taking via their working etc life.

sHREDDIES19 · 30/03/2020 13:50

I personally am only going out once a day (I alternate with my husband so one day he takes the kids and the other he goes out on his own). We live in suburbia and everyone has been really responsive whilst out and about i,e crossing the road, taking a wide berth etc to ensure a safe distance. I really don't have a problem though with some choosing to go out more frequently if they live in a rural spot. As some have said they don't meet others so there is no problem at all. It's about being sensible and assessing the degree of risk. Another poster up thread suggested not taking kids out on bikes and scooters; this is our kids preferred mode of transport and there have been no issues with this. Again don't see the problem as they're not taking any risks or travelling way off in the distance. Let's all calm down and remember pretty much all of us on this forum are being sensible and measured according to our individual circumstances. It's the folk who are having parties, and driving miles and miles to collect second hand items that really are taking the proverbial!

Janus · 30/03/2020 13:51

I think partly because rules are there 'for the obedience of fools and the guidance of wise men'.
Oh great, so all of us that are following the rules are stupid fools then?!!! 🙄🙄🙄

ChardonnaysPetDragon · 30/03/2020 13:53

Amazing how we're just expected to be able to manage our mental and physical health without leaving the house at all, likely for many, many months. However, as I'm seeing on MN, the elderly and chronically sick are seen by many as entirely dispensable

It's not a pleasant prospect, but what do you want to happen to the shielded category? How are they seen as dispensable? they are asked to stay in for their own safety.

You seem to be determined to be unhappy whatever.

Macncheeseballs · 30/03/2020 13:54

Yes I think that's about the sum of it. Nice!

Macncheeseballs · 30/03/2020 13:55

*to janus

Hearhoovesthinkzebras · 30/03/2020 13:57

Because so many people are adamant that they simply cannot cope with not being allowed out as much as they like and yet those of us being shielded just have to get on with it best way we can.

How are we dispensable? A fair few posters on many threads have basically said that it's just tough if we die, better that than their liberty be curtailed.