To ask genuinely if you aren't following the rules

[MrsKingfisher]

Why? I'm genuinely curious to know why those who can't get to grips with what's been asked of us all at this time or those who need to find a loophole are doing it.

Not key workers etc etc I'm talking about those who simply cannot do as they've been asked. It's mind boggling how simple rules can be so unclear to so many!

Some of my friends just cannot seem to stay at home, just carrying on as if the rules don't apply to them. I don't get it.

I'm staying indoors has much has possible only been out when there is no other option went out Thursday to try to do a two-week shop but only managed to get enough for 1 week, then I went up the road today for nappy rash cream and nappies,milk,juice and a big bag of rice. Will need to go out by Thursday because I could only get enough milk until then. Not even going out for exercise saving going out for just getting food.

I'm not following the rules as stringently as maybe I should. I'm still seeing my mother once a week with my children. She lives in sheltered housing and isn't mobile, so I do her shopping when I do mine and then take it over the next day. I know I should just drop the bags on her doorstep and leave, but we don't. I go in with the kids and have a cup of tea and a chat, do anything she needs doing in the house. I know I shouldn't, and if I get unwell then I will have to stop and isolate, which means she won't have food! No deliveries available until 16th April, so that's not an option and I am the only human contact she has, so dropping bags and walking away for possibly 6 months seems horribly cruel. I have discussed that risk with her, and she is very fatalistic with the idea that is she is totally alone then she may as well be dead! I expect to be judged for this, but am doing what feels right to me.

Is it really the rules to only shop once a week? If so, yes Im breaking the rules. Single parent, no car, tiny kitchen, supermarkets a bus ride away. The local shops are very hit and miss in their supplies - one day there's no milk, another day no fruit or veg - so I have to go shopping about three times a week just to get the basics in. Is that wrong?

Other than that, yes Im following the rules.

No the rules don't say you can only shop once a week Ketzele

No the rules aren’t only going to the shops once. Nor only exercising for an hour or whatever.
I’ve mentioned before I’m not following the rules strictly and I’m seeing my adult child and grandchild. I’ve weighed up the risks and am happier with the risks we are facing than the ones that could result if we weren’t to continue as we are. She could move back home and be part of our household and then seeing her would be fine clearly- so this is supporting my rationale for continuing to do so. I’m neither thick nor selfish.

Poeple not following the rules will be the problem of this never ending or slowing down. I just don't understand why these people think they are invincible whilst they in 14 days will be another strain on the nhs

We do abide by them, as do most people we see around here.

I work from home in the mornings and then go out for my walk in the afternoon, with our spaniel usually. DH is also working from home too and he goes for his walk around 5.30pm, after he has finished work.

I went to the supermarket on Saturday morning and to collect the spaniel's repeat prescription from the vet, which is just down the road from it (there was no other way, they would often drop it off but were too short staffed). Social distancing practised as much as possible all of the time. The only point when it didn't work that well was inside the supermarket (Aldi), as some people would just dart past me or reach over my head for something. Most were respectful though, and once I got home I didn't go out again that day.

We are following rules, its selfish and irresponsible not to. My husband is in the extremely at risk group and has to be "shielded". Im the only one who can go for shopping, he works from home but if i have to go out our 2 DDs stay home with him. We have struggled to get delivery slots so there will be times i have to leave and every time i do i risk him because people aren't following guidlines properly. I know a woman who works for the NHS, her son started showing symptoms so they were supposed to self isolate for 14 says but she was out visiting somebody 2 days later!

We are under social services. We have vulnerable adults in the house. The children have been ordered out of isolation (vulnerable adult had a chest infection so we were isolating) and back to school. I have a sore throat and a temperature, but have to take the kids to and from school.

Most people seem to be following the rules around here. I have however seen various builders/gardeners doing probably non-essential stuff.

Hi..am really trying to follow the rules but get disheartened when I know my pig of an ex is driving between towns to see his new girlfriend..neither keyworkers...its these sort that spread the virus..am glad the police hv a right to fine people like him but highly unlikely he will get caught...my heart goes out to those following the rules and on their own..my daughter is with me as uni shut...Jx

Actual message from a colleague on our work whatsapp:

‘ Kids have been really good though and so lucky with my neighbours we've removed fence panels so we can still knatter and put rope up so kids are locked of from each other’

Cause as always these people know better and dont think they will catch it or pass it on to anyone. Idiots.

Following all the rules except for visiting my elderly grandparents. They have said they would rather take the risk than not see their grandchildren and great-grandchildren for months and months.

We aren't going anywhere else though, lucky enough to have a big garden so staying at home except for one visit to the grandparents every two weeks. Shopping being delivered etc.

I broke the rules the other day. My dad is housebound and lives 6 floors up. He can’t get a food delivery right now 🙁 I dropped off a shop and some home cooked food. I was going to leave them at the door but he plaintively called me in. He is so lonely and just needed a few minutes of chat. I stood as far away as I could, washed my hands etc. I felt so conflicted but he just needed human company. All he sees are his nurses twice a week 🥺

As a senior nurse working on the front line I have had to call a patients daughter and give her the confirmation that her parent was positive to covid19 last week.
What is extremely sad is that the daughter was not allowed to visit her parent and hold her hand, tell her parent that she loved them, be with her parent at their most vulnerable time of their life. I also had to discuss with the daughter over the phone that her parent would not be a suitable candidate for ITU and would most likely die in a few short days. I also had to explain that treatment would be withdrawn and that we would be aiming to keep comfort a priority over providing active care. Remember all this got carried out over the phone - not in a face to face meeting as it usually does.
This is what we are up against - not just me or my colleagues across the healthcare sector worldwide but as a community as a whole.
WE MUST TAKE CARE OF OUR FRAIL/VULNERABLE/ELDERLY LOVED ONES. If that means asking them to self isolate then so should we all to protect them. It's not about us it's about those who are vulnerable. It is a horrible horrible infection. Whilst most of us may get it it wont kill us but it will kill our most vulnerable in society.
Please self isolate

My PIL will tell you they’ve already had a long life so what (they are mid 70).
The only thing MIL is actually bothered about is the dog and who would look after it....

Yes we have been, family of 6 shopping once a week, dog walked once a day for an hour DH and I splitting it and taking 2DCs per day.

To sound callous though, the elderly saying they don’t want to be isolated and will take their chances are also going to put further strain on the NHS should they become unwell.....

Yes @caplin I’m the same. My dads termanilly ill and lives on his own. The thought of him being on his own for the rest of his life is horrid. I don’t care I’m still visiting him.

My grandmother would also say that she would rather be dead than spend 12 weeks away from her family.
However as an ex nurse she also knows she has a responsibility to the NHS... if she gets seriously ill, she will need an ambulance/a hospital bed until she dies. She also knows it would be a death in which she’d be unable to see her friends/family on her death bed, and that her family would be unable to have a proper funeral for her. So she’s staying at home and we’re staying away.

@Boshmama

Following all the rules except for visiting my elderly grandparents. They have said they would rather take the risk than not see their grandchildren and great-grandchildren for months and months.

So not following all the rules then. :)

Not judging one way or another - it is just you either are or aren't.

I’m waiting for the announcement that the government is going to bring back the stocks for these people to be placed near supermarket queues so people can throw out of date fruit and veg at them while they wait to be let in the shop.

@Mumdalgarno I can't even imagine how that must be for you. Thank you for all you do It's selfish people can't follow the rules 😢

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