To ask genuinely if you aren't following the rules

[MrsKingfisher]

Why? I'm genuinely curious to know why those who can't get to grips with what's been asked of us all at this time or those who need to find a loophole are doing it.

Not key workers etc etc I'm talking about those who simply cannot do as they've been asked. It's mind boggling how simple rules can be so unclear to so many!

Some of my friends just cannot seem to stay at home, just carrying on as if the rules don't apply to them. I don't get it.

I am breaking the rules by still seeing my mum but we had both been isolating before the lockdown as she was ill and so was my DS. We are only seeing each other and not mixing any other household. She lives alone.

However I think she will return to work in about two weeks and then we will no longer be seeing her until the lockdown is over.

The issue is that there are so many interpretations of the rules. There is the actual legislation, then there is the government guidance and finally the rules according to MN.

Dh is still having to go to work he isnt a key worker but was threatened with redundancy last week if he didnt go in.. We still need to put food on the table other than that we are sticking to the rules

That is sticking to the rules. The rules are that if you can’t work from home then you can still go out to work. A lot of people have chosen to interpret that as ‘essential work only’ but that actually wasn’t the advice given.

We are sticking to the rules

But my grandad who's 85 phones up and says he need x y and z from super market

Told him that we can't keep running out cause its dangerous.

But he says he's lived through a war and nothing is worse than that 😑

Then when you pass him the shopping he remembers something else that he needs

And try telling him you can't sit in his house and he says the government are wrong and we are safe to go in the house. And makes you feel guilty that you are not going in for a chat and a cup of tea 😑🤔

I know a few people not following the rules. These are highly intelligent, successful and well read people. One of them said to me she knows it's against the rules. They have been going out to visit her parents at their house. I think they think well if I get it never mind, but aren't really thinking of others. But I guess if they feel like they are going to her parents house and back they aren't spreading it. I wonder if she will think differently if her parents or someone close dies from it.

I live in a rural community surrounded by fields and woodland, to which I can walk within minutes and not see a soul. Pretty much everyone I know locally has at least on dog and, without exception, these dogs are all getting at least two walks a day. Some folks are dividing the walks between couples, others just go out together twice! One couple I know say it's because the wife can't control their very large dog on her own, others just say that, as we're in the country and rarely see anyone when we're out, that it's oK. It's the principle of not being near other people which is important, not how many people/walks are taken.

I'm just trying to stay safe and stay alive so am avoiding everyone as far as is humanly possible. It sucks, but needs must.

We were invited to a gathering of a friend the other day to celebrate an event. This person is all over social media calling people for not social isolating. We declined as did most of the others.
Seen people out picnicking, including a family meeting another family near where we live.

Clampdown on those willfully spreading their misinterpretation of the rules is now starting.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-52086284

I want to see Mumsnet deleting posts on threads like this one which have misinformation on them.

@Haffiana We need people to follow expert medical advice and stay at home, protect the NHS and save lives.
"It is vital that this message hits home and that misinformation and disinformation which undermines it is knocked down quickly."

Telling people to stay home doesn't undermine people being asked to stay home

We’re sticking to it.

I’ve not had to go grocery shopping yet. (I managed to get an online shop) and my DH is a key worker so has been getting milk on the way past the corner shop.

We just go out for an hour’s walk to try and burn some of the children’s energy off!

My Mum (also a key worker) dropped some groceries off by the front door.

It’s painful/trying but needs to be done.

My parents aren't sticking to the guidance- they go to the supermarket every day (sometimes more than once a day), still seeing friends etc. It drives me crazy. I think they see it as standing up for themselves and not being told what to do and they think that the extent of the reaction to the virus is just a sign that all young people are pathetic snowflakes.

My mum has form for this sort of thing- for example, she never wears a seatbelt but instead just tucks it under her arm, so that it would look to a policeman as if she was wearing it. Can you think of anything more stupid? The problem is that, the more I talk to them about sticking to the rules, the more bloody-minded they are about it. I can feel my blood pressure rising just typing this. How can I get them to see that you can value individual liberty and still make sensible decisions to protect your own health and the health of others?

Where‘s the rule about not driving? (I’m not asking for myself, just curious. I don’t have a licence)

Is it not better to drive somewhere remote and walk there, rather than go for a walk locally where there may be more people? Genuine question, not intended to be goady.

Husband went to the shop 3 times last week which is probably bending the rules but we have kids to feed and they didn’t have much in the shop for him to buy so with only buying smaller shops he’s made more trips. Still he went alone and didn’t take me or the kids. I haven’t left my flat since the 11th of March because I developed symptoms and then was contacted to say I had been in contact with a confirmed case so was ill and isolating before the lockdown anyway. Because I was isolating I couldn’t take the kids to school so they’ve been home since then although once the 14 days isolation was over from when I first started my husband started taking them outside to our flats green for half an hourish each day to run around as we live in a flat with no garden and both kids share a room so I would count this as the kids genuinely needing the fresh air and exercise. So yes, with the exception of going to the shops for food a bit more often than recommended due to lack of availability of the food we’ve stuck to the rules.

I'm gutted that hubby and I both have to work. We have three children who are increasingly frustrated at being inside but they understand why (sort of).

I want to lock the doors and not go out until summer!!

Hands up. Kill me if you must. I take my dogs out across the fields - we live in a very rural community- and I go out at 5.30-6am. I never see anybody at all.

Then I go with my husband in the afternoon for about an hour again with the dogs. By that time there will be half a dozen walkers/runners out and about but the fields are big enough to keep much more then 2 metres away from others.

That is the only time I go out.

I’ve not been shopping for two weeks and am getting basics and perishable food like bread, milk and eggs delivered by our local dairy.

We’ve always had a well stocked freezer because where we live there have been times in the winter months when we can’t get out for a few weeks because of the snow so I’m making pies - meat and potato, steak and kidney and cheese flans plus liver and onions and stews. Good staple meals. My freezer is not as full as it was but we’ll probably manage another couple of weeks before I need to think about shopping.

Unless I’m walking the dog (once a day) shopping for us or for others (I’m a volunteer in my area for those that can’t get out including both my DPs and my husband). I’m not out. I don’t even go into the houses of the DPs but speak through the window.

It’s really very simple not hard to understand but some idiots are so selfish they can’t see by not doing this we will have these restrictions imposed on us for longer.

we're really annoyed with our GP, hubby has dozens of meds, coming up for repeat at 4 different dates in April, so that's 4 trips to the pharmacy, They won't even up the dates and heaven forbid they'd give him 2 or 3 months supply. He is over 70 and has one lung so I have to keep going to the chemist and putting myself at risk and possibly passing it to him. I'd love to stay home.

I’ll probably get shot down for this but I’m just being honest..... I’ve visited a friend twice. Stayed the night at hers Friday. I’m not stupid or under the illusion I won’t get it.... A day before the lockdown her partner of 6 years walked out on her and she’s really not in a good place. She has no one round here other than myself as it is and I’m really scared for her mental well being at the moment. I know the tag is ‘save lives, stay at home’ but genuinely felt like I was saving a life by staying with her on Friday. I know it doesn’t make it ok, aside from that I’ve stuck by the rules etc but I really don’t know how to help her at the moment

My neighbours who don't know me probably think I'm flouting the rules because I have to go out twice a day, but it's to feed my horse. Although really I think me coming back covered in mud and horse feed every day since last year has probably clued them in to that fact.

Im complying

I suppose if you have been into town on a packed tube or had to teach others' children all day with little regard to social distancing, it seems a bit crackpot not to talk to your own mother or visit a friend by standing a th ebottom of the garden.

Hello from Spain. Where by the way we are on complete lockdown. Not allowed exercise. Only allowed out for food, meds, 100 yards outside your house for your dog walk. Also key workers. People are DYING HERE. For those selfish fuckers that still don't get it, engage your fucking brain cell. I despair when I see on social media, British news how stupid people are. The UK is behind us. You selfish bastards that think the rules don't apply to you, WAKE UP. You are not only putting yourself and your loved ones in danger, but also other innocent people that do follow the rules. If you want the facts on this google Professor Kim U-Tube Covid19. He is the worlds leading virologist in South Korea. He knows about and studied all the Corona virus. South Korea, Singapore have the lowest rate of infections. He answers ALL your questions about Covid19. If you want you and yours to get through this, follow the fucking rules. Anne Frank was isolated for years, your being asked to self isolate for a very short period of time to save lives. DO IT NOW.

We all have to do sacrifices and the uncertainty is the toughest one to deal with. I think of the things that are in my control and do those. Sticking to the rules, no socialising apart from online. Haven't seen my children for a few weeks now. I do go for a 10km walk every day but rarely meet anyone, if so, we all make sure there is a proper distance between us. We cook, exercise, dance, clean and clear up areas in our home we haven't touched for years. This time can be used to actually be together and find out who we really are. I am totally aware that there are lots of difficult times as well and we are no exception. However, I chose to remain as positive as possible and accept it's out of my control. Take care everyone. This too shall pass.

Well I'm a nurse and I'm following the rules to the letter. I'm usually a bit of a rebel but I am really scared about this. I have dealt with lots of infectious diseases over the last 30 odd years but never have seen so many healthcare professionals really concerned. I don't always agree with politicians especially the tories but I think they have got this bang on. Its worldwide people - tens of thousands are dying.

I work at a supermarket so I have to go to work. Most of the time I work in the office, but for about 2 hours a day I am on the shop floor. This is where my anxiety levels rise. I see the odd customer browsing the shop for about 20 minutes before buying an apple or chocolate bar. I see families of 4+ shopping. I feel people breathing down my neck when they see the opportunity of buying a scotch egg for 59p! It's a scary time and thoughtless/ignorant individuals are belligerent in breaking these important rules.