To ask genuinely if you aren't following the rules

[MrsKingfisher]

Why? I'm genuinely curious to know why those who can't get to grips with what's been asked of us all at this time or those who need to find a loophole are doing it.

Not key workers etc etc I'm talking about those who simply cannot do as they've been asked. It's mind boggling how simple rules can be so unclear to so many!

Some of my friends just cannot seem to stay at home, just carrying on as if the rules don't apply to them. I don't get it.

When I was at work on sunday i some guy with a very tiny baby in the trolley..people have no sense at all

Lots of people don’t trust the government or any branches of the state, including the NHS. They don’t think they are being told the truth, assume the danger is exaggerated to try and make them comply. They don’t have much faith that governments have made good decisions about the virus so think the rules are unlikely to do what they are supposed to anyway, especially with so many people apparently being granted key worker status and the government being confused about what rules it’s bringing in.

Others think it’s all a bit pointless because it won’t eliminate the virus, it will just come roaring back when we lift the restrictions and since we can’t keep this up for two years there’s really not much point.

And others think it’s not going to hurt them so why should they curtail their lives? They’re just seeing Fred and Mary, how is that going to hurt anyone?

@Femail women die in childbirth sometimes. He might not have had a choice but to being his tiny baby.

I have a new baby so do tend to go out for multiple short pram walks a day. Otherwise my baby doesn't sleep

There are some people who think rules do not apply to them. I have met a few of these. They do what they want and seem to see being told they can't do something, as a personal challenge. They are also usually unemployable and have fallen out with most people in their life.

There are also drug addicts for whom getting a fix is more important than avoiding corona 19.

And yes there are people who do not trust any authority and will only do what they think makes sense to do.

People break laws all the time! Why is anyone expecting 100% of the population to comply with this? All any of us can do is reduce our own 'risky' behaviour, and hope the message gets across to enough people to keep the spread of the virus down.

The people I know who arent following the rules livd by a "if I'm fearful its won" type of mentality.
They arent the brightest of people in the world, and I just have to accept that this is their choice, and choose to distance from them more.

I m Very high risk so obviously have conformed . I wonder whether these idiots are lightheaded at getting 80% to sit on their backsides - wh ile some of their fellow workers have to go to work and others are at home with nothing.

We have had to fight MIL to stay in her home. She seemed to think scheduling 2 random trips to our house last week was essential as shes 'lonely on her own' and also as the taxis allowed her to book house t house so clearly its not a rule

She now thinks we are just being mean and using this as an excuse not to see her. And is still taking daily trips to her local shop. And she is in a high risk group both with age and illnesses..we are half expecting her just randomly turning up here in a taxi..and having a very awkward situation

Honestly anyone who understands the rules and isn't following them just does not care about others. My list of FB "friends" is getting smaller every day. Some people really suck.

It's the same people banging on about their "human rights" being infringed upon by being asked to stay in and if they dont stand up to this now it will continue after the lockdown. They never saw this happening in this country and yes people are dying but it's not reason enough for them to be forced to stay inside. This is a democracy don't you know.

Oh shut up and quit trying to justify your selfish twatish behaviour. This is not the fucking hill to die on if you care about human rights. People who are completely not socially aware and not bothered about actual issues now bandying about their brand of selfish activism because they have been asked to stay inside to save their lives and those of the people around them

The entitlement blows my mind

I'm talking about those who simply cannot do as they've been asked. It's mind boggling how simple rules can be so unclear to so many!

It's funny because MNHQ have repeatedly asked that all coronavirus related threads go in the coronavirus subtopic. None allowed in AIBU. Just a simple rule

Ironically @AngelicaKauffman, in "normal" times, people post in AIBU "for traffic" but there's more traffic over on the Corona Virus board nowadays

The best way of protecting my MH has been not having access to either Fakebook or Twitter, they must be absolute cesspits atm -

Super heroes who are saving the human race by not going to the hairdresser

Look-at-me's who think they're Mother Teresa just because they bought a bit of shopping for their next door neighbour (complete with obligatory photo of 2 tins of beans and a pint of milk to prove their Sainthood)

People's 6yo DCs have overnight turned into Socrates and Plato philosophers, spouting truisms in the check-out queue at Asda

Anti-heroes spouting off with a list of everything they've done that doesn't comply with the Government, "coz it's my Hoooooman Rightz"

And so it goes on...

I broke the rules early this morning, though not intentionally. I saw a car accident outside my house this morning and went outside while on the phone to the ambulance and gave the person in the car that flipped over a cup of tea. He also used my phone to talk to the ambulance service. I didn't even think about coronavirus until he handed my phone back I think I did the right thing but I'm now scared I've brought the virus into my house and exposed my DH and DD.

This tweet and its replies illustrate very clearly that the rules need to be clearer.

1 & 2 I get (though actually you do need to take your car out for a drive occasionally, they don't like sitting around doing nothing). 3 isn't for the police to determine.

twitter.com/PoliceWarr/status/1244163251799195649

And if I go into one shop and they don't have what I want and there's a queue to get into a different shop, there's no problem with my DH going in later that day and trying another shop. The police have it wrong.

I'm talking about those who simply cannot do as they've been asked. It's mind boggling how simple rules can be so unclear to so many

Yes isn't it mind-boggling how some people simply can't accept that the rules do not near the strict interpretation they are giving them. Read the legislation and then pontificate. It strikes me that some police officers need to read the legislation very carefully before they go out bullying people.

*shallow^ clean your phone and you will be fine.

I follow the rules, it’s not exactly difficult. Those saying they still go out multiple times a day... just push the pram around the garden or house it’s not difficult. Don’t know why you’d risk a small baby catching it.

cologne4711 I did, thank you.

Quite a few of my elderly neighbors are in and out all day. No stopping them. One drove 45mins twice last week to nearest big town to go to pay a bill.
It's madness. We both key workers and have offered to pick up thier shopping or walk the dog when go out so they get two walks a day but they just want to carry on

I have to drive daily to tend to livestock. My OH and DC come too which I suspect wouldn’t be 100% compliant with the rules but it does mean they don’t leave the house for any other exercise as they’ve done theirs on private land with no chance of being anywhere near anyone else so I don’t believe it is actually an issue.

I’m struggling with interpreting the rules sometimes tbh. I am picking up bits and pieces of fresh food for my elderly father, salad veg etc, but I can’t just pop down to him (1 mile away) to drop it off as it’s not an essential drive? The food won’t last up to a week (if I do a weekly shop) as it’s fresh.

Yesterday I would’ve loved to drive down there and back, leaving it outside for him to pick up, would’ve taken 5 minutes tops. Instead I felt too guilty, so spent an hour waking there and back as “exercise” (and passed far more people than I would’ve done driving). I don’t know if I’m getting it all wrong! Am also wfh this week, and the thought of finishing at 5.30 then walking to his via Tesco then walking back, and trying to fit that into an hour after a days work, makes me want to cry! But eating salad and drinking milk is not essential is it. He could exist on tins...therefore the drive is not justified.

@Goatymcgoaty in your situation I think it’s fine to drive to drop off shopping for an elderly relative. Just try and limit it to as few times a week as possible.

Also fresh fruit/veg are good for our health. I don’t think anyone is expected to live off tins/dried food alone.

Dh is still having to go to work he isnt a key worker but was threatened with redundancy last week if he didnt go in.. We still need to put food on the table other than that we are sticking to the rules