to be laughing at my ex right now?

[cloudbutter]

Just spoken to one of his family members. He works for his friend and earns about 45k a year. He fiddles his earnings down to 16k a year and his friend pays him the rest in cash so he has to pay less child maintenance (he has 0 access so this would be fairly high should he declare his full earnings). He is a safeguarding risk to our son and court ordered 0 contact, and I have a lifelong restraining order, so IMHO he deserves no sympathy. He's just been on the phone to this family member who described him as 'going mental' that he's only going to be paid 80% of what he's declared by the government. Apparently it's all my fault as if he didn't have to pay me child maintenance he wouldn't have to have fiddled the books in the first place 😅 cheered me up in my isolation...

Re maintenance payments dropping with the 80%, cms doesn't change outside of a, 12 month review unless its a 25% drop and given that some parents are stopping contact during this period, they'll be feeding them more. I think a lot will depend on how amicable the parents are and whether the nrp always only ever pays cms minimum or if they do extras and are reasonable.

I was willing this to pan out as it did 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣🤣

That's cheered me up! Brilliant!

Absolutely fair YANBU. My DH is honest with his earnings and tax and is now relieved he always has been!

He will have known this would happen - I'm sure of it. And I'm sure he's realised that in the long term it'll mean people will declare and pay tax. Because they know this could go on for a few years yet.

My sentiments exactly! In this situation, the potential for off the books, cash in hand work to increase was definitely there. This incentivises full compliance and declaration of income. It was the right thing to do to include self-employed people, but politically it's also beneficial to him as well.

This post has made me smile 😁😁😁

This is why karma is beautiful

Apparently it's all my fault as if he didn't have to pay me child maintenance he wouldn't have to have fiddled the books in the first place
Typical that it is always someone else's fault!

Yes, I'm pmsl at self employed who have fiddled their tax returns for years, because they now won't get a reasonable taxpayer funded income for the foreseeable future. Withheld tax, so why should the people who did pay, fund them!

This made me

No all these people have moaned and ranted to others and on SM this is the time to report them to HMRC - it could be anyone that has report them. Also as part of the reporting use the term "their lifestyle doesn't seem to match their declared income".

Seriously others are on 0 hour contracts and getting nothing...

Hahahahaha! You reap what you sow!

Bloody brilliant! This has made my day OP!

This is exactly the sort of situation I know my ex-stepdad will now be in

Brings me joy. So so so much joy.

Ahhh what a shame for him! 🤣 Anyway moving on....

Apparently it's all my fault as if he didn't have to pay me child maintenance he wouldn't have to have fiddled the books in the first place

I'm particularly loving this bit of logic 😀. I'm bloody delighted that the tax and child maintenance dodgers are getting their comeuppance. Over a few years, they'll still be better off but it gives me pleasure that they'll be suffering in the short term.

Can somebody post how without being identified we can report these ratbags who don’t pay taxes. If they all paid up more investigation could be funded. Vicious circle springs to mind

There must be a way.

We wouldn’t need to have NHS shortages if everybody paid their tax. Most of us have no choice we get tax deducted at source.

Ah well never mind :)

Schadenfreude!

DH and I were laughing about this earlier. We have a friend who is married to a utterly dislikable person who has vastly under-reported his true income for over a decade. He will be massively pissed off at missing out on government money.

beautiful 😂😂😂

That is wonderful

Google

HMRC report tax evasion

On line form, "your details will be treated securely"

You can fill in how many other people you think know about it etc

This is good.

I feel a bit sorry for my friend, who used to have employees and paid herself as employee of the Ltd company. The company went through a rough time in the last recession so she took herself off the payroll so she could continue to pay her 2 employees, and earned nothing for 2-3 years (living on husband's wage), then didn't put herself back on the payroll but just paid herself dividends - she's older and has made full NI contributions, no mortgage etc luckily, but no pension for a year or so. She'll still have to top up her 2 employees by 20% but won't be able to pay them after a couple of months since the company has ground to a halt, and she won't get 80% of her earnings out of which she would have paid her 2 employees their 20% the government wouldn't cover. If she makes either of her 2 redundant they've both been there getting on for 20 years and again that'll cost her.