to be laughing at my ex right now?

[cloudbutter]

Just spoken to one of his family members. He works for his friend and earns about 45k a year. He fiddles his earnings down to 16k a year and his friend pays him the rest in cash so he has to pay less child maintenance (he has 0 access so this would be fairly high should he declare his full earnings). He is a safeguarding risk to our son and court ordered 0 contact, and I have a lifelong restraining order, so IMHO he deserves no sympathy. He's just been on the phone to this family member who described him as 'going mental' that he's only going to be paid 80% of what he's declared by the government. Apparently it's all my fault as if he didn't have to pay me child maintenance he wouldn't have to have fiddled the books in the first place 😅 cheered me up in my isolation...

Will people still have to pay all their maintenance or will they be using this as an excuse not to pay over the next few weeks and be "let off"

That could be concerning.

You just know how stingy they are and how they believe the world owes them this. Sucked in as we say in Aus.

Good enough 👍

I've already looked at some of the threads on dad.info. Lots of dad's asking whether they still have to pay child maintenance if they aren't seeing their kids. It's such a bizarre mindset. Their kids don't cease to exist or stop needing food because they aren't seeing the other parent. I know not all parents are like this. My dad paid child maintenance, paid my mum's mortgage and gave us extra money in to our accounts until we left uni. Even if that meant he had to struggle. For my brother that was at the age of 28. I still cry sometimes because I made a poor choice of partner and my son has a deadbeat for a dad. But I am thankful that the men in my family have stood up to the mark and help to nurture my son in a way that my ex doesn't know how to. I've gone off on a bit of a tangent. Just can't imagine ever trying to argue my way out if supporting my own child.

Beautiful,just beautiful op.

Thankyou for sharing this, I'm having a dark day and this has cheered me up no end. I absolutely bloody love karma 👍

Yes op, my dh mentioned this to me last night about my gs's dad. We are grandparent carers and he has only made two payments for him in ten months despite earning £40,000 (or nearer £60,000 in reality). He now says he can pay nothing and is on Universal Credit. Funnily, I rang his employers to ask them to pass on a message to him and they confirmed he was still working there!

It makes a mockery of decent dads who pay for their kids. I have accepted now that I probably won't get anything again for my gs as CMS are woeful even when there is not a crisis.

I am glad karma has paid him a visit op. Just waiting for ours too!

My ex's primary relationship is, and always has been, with his wallet. He was tight when I was with him, bleeding me dry of money, and is still tight, refusing to pay any child support at all. The DCs ignore him, they really don't want to know, because he's all mememe. I've never had to say a bad word against him, they've seen his behaviour throughout their lives.

If you can prove what you wrote, this sounds like the perfect time to report him! Especially if he's verbally blaming you for his choices to screw over the government and his own child.

Karma indeed.

Yeah I was thinking the same about my ex. Karma really is a bitch 😆😆🥳🥳 I might never get my maintenance but he’s finally got his comeuppance!

karma at last. I have friends with exes like that and also know self employed people who did similar to top up earnings with benefits.

nice one op

karma karma karma chameleon.........

I have zero sympathy for most of the self-employed people who have been fiddling the taxes and are now in uproar because they’re not getting paid their ‘full’ salary… tough. No sympathy.

After reading this I realise my ex will suffer the same, He does a lot of cash in hand jobs to keep his official earnings low, I did consider shopping him to HMRC but he can be aggressive and would have known it was me, so this is as you say Karma

Ha. Just desserts.

Karma has no deadline.

sorry to go ot but what will happen with child maintenance now-will they all drop their amounts because their only getting 80% how does it work

I don’t even know him but this has cheered me right up !

People who don’t look after their kids when they are able are the lowest of the low.

Sounds like it couldn't happen to a nicer person

I suspect he and many others who've dodged the system for years are about to get arse bitten by a giant tiger

👍 fab

My cheating ex is now out of work & saddled with his highly mortgaged shag pad house, leased playa car & no access to his regular coterie of fuck buddies he met on a sex site whilst with me. Couldn’t be sweeter.

So he will still get around £3,200 for the 3 months of him not working.
Similar to what he gives you no doubt!!??

Still doesn't seem fair does it!
But at least it's a lot less than what he would get if he was honest.
So it's your fault HE is depriving his child of money he should be handing over to help support HIS child.
CUNT - he deserves everything that's coming to him.

@jenasaurus I understand completely that feeling of wanting to report someone but being too scared of the consequences. I just focus on being the best mother I can be and hope my son realises that when he's older.

Hahahaha!

I was just saying to DH last night, that a lot of self-employed who have been "creatively declaring" their earnings are going to find they'y shot themselves in the foot.

I hadn't thought of feckless fathers - even better!