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I didn't do anything wrong....did I?

593 replies

Funkyslippers · 26/03/2020 16:40

DD desperate to see her friend who lives a few streets away. She made brownies and we dropped them on her doorstep, went back onto the pavement around 12 feet away, DD called her and she came to the door, took the brownies and said thank you.

They then call each other while we're walking home (social distancing all the way but not many people around) and her older sister shouts in the background "her mum let her do that? That was stupid!!!" meaning we shouldn't have brough the brownies round to her house. I couldn't see anything wrong with it. I mean, the postman delivers mail to houses each day. Am I missing something? Or is she worried about eating contaminated food - we washed our hands thoroughly during the process.

OP posts:
LillianGish · 26/03/2020 17:57

It wasn’t essential, was it?
This is the problem. Everyone is looking for loopholes, and everyone believes they have a reason that the rules shouldn’t apply to them.

In a nutshell. That’s what I love about the French form - before you go out you have to decide which box to tick. There isn’t a box for delivering brownies to a friend who is more than capable of buying or making their own so I would have paused before making the journey and concluded that no it wasn’t essential. Without the form there are any number of loopholes that can be invented as illustrated by many threads on Mumsnet today. Remember - the virus doesn’t spread itself, it’s people who spread it.

Christmastreedown · 26/03/2020 17:57

Op did a lot better than my neighbour who invited other kid to play with hers, i saw them in their garden.

You can't compare your brownie delivery to postman's delivery.

Ethelfleda · 26/03/2020 17:59

Apparently @Ethelfleda must be an "insider in the government as she is now making up the rules that we all must follow. Sorry, didn't realise you were in charge*

Nope. Specifically take aways are actually allowed. Dropping brownies off... not so much.
If you can’t tell the difference between food prepared in an environment with specific hygiene rules in place, or your kid making brownies in your kitchen then you must be hard of thinking.

Ethelfleda · 26/03/2020 18:00

There has to be transference. The risk via food is minuscule. Stop overreacting

Minuscule yes - Much less of a risk than coughing in someone’s mouth I grant you. But there is still a risk nonetheless and it just didn’t need to happen, did it?

malmi · 26/03/2020 18:01

This just shows that when people were complaining that the messages were 'confusing', that wasn't the problem. The messages can be as clear as anything. Some people just don't want to follow them because they think they know better.

Cheesepleas3 · 26/03/2020 18:01

This is getting ridiculous now! There is no way I’d bin homemade food someone had made me! The brownies had been baked and I’m sure the OP and her DD had washed their hands.
People seriously need to get a fucking grip

@CallMeOnMyCell has got it bang on the money, threads like this doesn't show people aren't following rules, it's shows how utterly fucking hysterical people have become!

Ethelfleda · 26/03/2020 18:02

Remember - the virus doesn’t spread itself, it’s people who spread it

This! And none of us are experts on this virus! Absolutely none of us! Therefore, to allow an individual to decide that the virus couldn’t possibly be transmitted this way (based on absolutely no knowledge or experience whatsoever) and to modify their behaviour accordingly is a really stupid thing to do

NoMoreDickheads · 26/03/2020 18:04

You're technically wrong as we're not supposed to make any unnecessary trips. But I suppose you could justify it as part of your daily 'exercise.' Smile

JockTamsonsBairns · 26/03/2020 18:05

I doubt the postman put the Farmfoods leaflets through your door. Mine does Confused

crapette · 26/03/2020 18:06

So these brownies......they were just hovering in mid-air, or were they perhaps in a bag or a box........which you and your daughter had touched....then you took this to another house?

Ethelfleda · 26/03/2020 18:07

Look - every time you touch a surface that has been touched by someone else that doesn’t live in your household, you increase your risk of catching it or passing it on. So the logical thing is to not do this unless it is absolutely necessary (I.e. touching products in the supermarket when you go to buy essentials) the less you do it, the less the chances of spreading it.

GreytExpectations · 26/03/2020 18:09

And people like you are why we ended up with this "lockdown" scenario rather than just "social distancing".

Actually no. You have no clue what I've been doing so I will fill you in: I've been working from home for the last 2 weeks and haven't seen any of my friends or family members since the social isolation guidance was given and even before that I was already cancelling plans and not going out unless it was required. Since the lock down I have only left my house for one daily walk to walk my dog or to go on a run. I also left my house Tuesday for a grocery shop, which is allowed. So please @SoupDragon can you explain how I am not following the rules and are the reason for the lock down?

EarringsandLipstick · 26/03/2020 18:09

based on absolutely no knowledge or experience whatsoever

My posts are based on the very clear advice easily available from public health experts & infectious control doctors.

And because I have a brain, I listen to those experts and understand what they tell me. And don't go around wildly hysterical 🤦🏻‍♀️

Bazookapie · 26/03/2020 18:11

I doubt the postman put the Farmfoods leaflets through your door

Mine does too, plus other leaflets that go straight in the bin!

amusedbush · 26/03/2020 18:13

Mine does too, plus other leaflets that go straight in the bin!

Yep, Royal Mail is paid by companies to deliver their flyers door to door.

Smellbellina · 26/03/2020 18:14

Isn’t this essentially the same as the ‘yes you can sit in your garden and talk to your neighbour over the fence at a safe distance, but no you shouldn’t be passing a cup of tea over the fence’ scenario that was covered at one of the government press conferences.

To be honest, I hope none of DD’s friends feel the ‘need’ to do this. I would feel bad (as if!) burning their baked goods.

GreytExpectations · 26/03/2020 18:15

@Ethelfleda Nope. Specifically take aways are actually allowed. Dropping brownies off... not so much.
If you can’t tell the difference between food prepared in an environment with specific hygiene rules in place, or your kid making brownies in your kitchen then you must be hard of thinking.

Unless you can show me where on the official government guidelines that dropping off food outside a house and then keeping the required distance as part of your daily excercise is not allowed than I think you will find you are the one hard of thinking and listening.

Eckhart · 26/03/2020 18:15

Where does it say "delivering brownies" on this

It doesn't state 'wear clothes' either. Should we be doing everything naked, because clothes aren't mentioned in the guidelines?

Pumperthepumper · 26/03/2020 18:16

They’ve been off school for four days. You are in for a lot of grief if you’re having to make sickly gestures this early on to appease your DD.

Inkpaperstars · 26/03/2020 18:17

It wasn't essential so probably not in line with the guidance but I doubt it was actually risky. I would bin the brownies as I wouldn't know whether they could be contaminated, but what does that matter? People are always binning food and children don't know, they had fun making it and thinking someone was going to eat it.

LuluJakey1 · 26/03/2020 18:17

I would not buy takeaway food at the moment.

Gastonimo · 26/03/2020 18:17

I think this is ok and something that would have brought a little joy at this troubling time

Pishposhpashy · 26/03/2020 18:17

I would not buy takeaway food at the moment.

OK so don't.

Mothership4two · 26/03/2020 18:18

One cough can produce 3,000 miniscule droplets that can last in the air for up to 3 hours. And kids are known "super spreaders" of cold and flu viruses. And you may have tried to be extra hygienic, but with a kid you cannot be 100% sure that they followed your rules.

We are all having to keep our distance from others for a reason and giving (unnecessary) homecooked food is crossing that barrier. It's not hysteria it's just common sense. My self-isolating parents say that having the mindset that everyone has Covid is the best way for them to try and avoid it.

Personally, if I had been your dd's friends' parents, your brownies would have gone straight in the bin.

pleasepleasepleasehelp · 26/03/2020 18:18

@Funkyslippers YABVVU, and surely you must know that. Hmm

It's because of people like you (and the muppets on this thread supporting you and saying anyone saying YABU are being hysterical,) that we have this fecking lockdown now.

At this rate, because of the ignorance and stupidity of people, we will all be under fucking house arrest,and not able to leave the confines of our house and garden!

What a incredibly stupid thing to do. Baking brownies and tootling around to someone's house to drop them off. We are in lockdown and are only supposed to make ESSENTIAL JOURNEYS ONLY! What part of that are you not getting? Confused

Seriously, WTF is wrong with some people?!!!!! Angry I am sick to death of people thinking that the rules don't apply to them. Like they are so special that they don't have to do what they're told. Hmm

There are some seriously obtuse posters on this thread, who think what the OP did was OK! God help us ALL with people like you on the loose! Hmm

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