I didn't do anything wrong....did I?

[Funkyslippers]

DD desperate to see her friend who lives a few streets away. She made brownies and we dropped them on her doorstep, went back onto the pavement around 12 feet away, DD called her and she came to the door, took the brownies and said thank you.

They then call each other while we're walking home (social distancing all the way but not many people around) and her older sister shouts in the background "her mum let her do that? That was stupid!!!" meaning we shouldn't have brough the brownies round to her house. I couldn't see anything wrong with it. I mean, the postman delivers mail to houses each day. Am I missing something? Or is she worried about eating contaminated food - we washed our hands thoroughly during the process.

Don't be so silly, all of you who think that brownies run the risk of transmitting the virus. It's v v unlikely (I'm not going to say impossible but really...). The hysteria about this is nuts.

The virus is transmitted by droplets & transferred by touch.

Even if someone sneezed all over the brownies - and who'd do that & give it to a friend? There's v little evidence that it would cause transmission.

OP you & DD did a nice thing. 💐

This. My fucking god I despair at how few people seem to understand this.

I despair at people like you @Ethelfleda who can't understand the rules or read the OP probably. She walked over the the friends, as part of their daily excercise which is allowed. Did you even read Boris Johnsons message properly?

They’re being strict because everyone is an armchair epidemiologist all of a sudden (this thread being a case in point) and are also an expert on how a virus spreads that has been in existence for all of five minutes.
So everyone thinks they know how it could or could not spread and use it as an excuse to behave however they want to. The advice is simple as far as I am concerned and yet people still seem to have trouble actually following it.

I'm actually getting really annoyed by other parents letting their kids do things like this. We've had cookies made a friend of DS2's and a card made by DD3's friend delivered.

It's making it much harder for me to deal with my kids because I'm having to try and find ways to explain why Billy can do this or Mary can do that or Tommy and Jason can have a sleepover (yes really) in a way that doesn't involve saying "Because Mary's Mum isn't thinking and because Billy's Dad is an idiot"

Much better to have the kids communicat by phone and then draw pictures to spot in windows on their walks than anything that involves touching things between houses.

This daily exercise loophole is getting tedious. Everyone looking for a reason why their own particular behaviour is fine. Forget about pleasing yourselves. Think of the gallant medics and scientists doing their utmost to save us. Ffs stay home.

I wouldnt risk it. Our breath carries microscopic particles. We can be symptomless carriers. You won’t know for a week if infection has been passed between the two families. I wouldn’t take that risk.

How did you hand the brownies over? You should have put them down, backed off 2m, the other person picks them up. Not handing them at arms length.

And anyway there are a lot of utter arseholes in this world. If they see people behaving in a certain way they may copy. So one seeing that could think it’s ok to do something similar (say cooking something for his mum and taking it round coughing saying “oh it’s ok as it’s cooked like OP’s food was, I saw them and I’m just doing the same so it’s ok” or somesuch, not being sensible. And before you know it some other rules have been bent.

Just follow the rules. Stay safe. Preferably stay at home as much as possible and reduce your chance of getting it.

Holey Moley. The brownies were baked and untouched.

The giver and recipient maintained more than enough social distance.

The trip was on foot, and the walk was the daily exercise.

There is nothing wrong here.

She walked over the the friends, as part of their daily excercise which is allowed. Did you even read Boris Johnsons message properly?

Yes I did. And putting brownies on a doorstep isn’t exercise. It isn’t essential - it’s the WALK that is allowed. Not the ‘oh I will just do this along the way what harm can it do’

Forgive me but I have never witnessed circuit training that involves gifting baked goods to friends

Wish someone would leave brownies on my doorstep

Where does it say "delivering brownies" on this?

Well I'm having a takeaway delivered shortly so fail to see how that is any different. Maybe I should give it a spin round the washing machine on a hot wash before I eat it though.

Food standards Scotland

"Risk Management Advice

The risk of contracting novel coronavirus (COVID-19) through the UK food chain is very low. There is currently no evidence to suggest transmission occurs through the foodborne route. Therefore you are very unlikely to catch COVID-19 from food.

Based on the available information, three risks have been identified:

Risk from contaminated food – evidence suggests that the risk from contaminated food is very low. It is highly unlikely coronavirus can be spread through food however as with other infections good hygiene practices should be followed in food preparation.
Risk from infected food handlers – evidence suggest the main mechanism of transmission is considered to be human to human. All food workers should ensure the necessary personal and environmental controls are in place to prevent the transmission of pathogens through food, food preparation surfaces or food packaging, in line with their business’ HACCP.
Risk from contaminated food contact materials - evidence suggests that the risk from food contact materials is very low. Good hygienic practices should already be in place during the manufacturing stages to significantly reduce the risk of contaminating any food contact materials and articles."

www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/03/200320192755.htm

Virus can live up to 24hrs on cardboard, 72hrs on other surfaces and possibly days in the air

"The study suggests that people may acquire the coronavirus through the air and after touching contaminated objects. Scientists discovered the virus is detectable for up to three hours in aerosols, up to four hours on copper, up to 24 hours on cardboard and up to two to three days on plastic and stainless steel."

@goldenorbspider Me too!!! haha

Funkyslippers I think it was a lovely thing to do. Some people on here are fucking mental and just want to be doing more to help deal with this than anyone else.

Well I'm having a takeaway delivered shortly so fail to see how that is any different. Maybe I should give it a spin round the washing machine on a hot wash before I eat it though

Food that is prepared in an establishment that has to put mitigating measures in place BY LAW to protect its staff from this virus? That has to abide by certain hygiene standards? That has specifically been allowed? Of course it is different!!!

Personally I wouldn’t have done this. It isn’t an essential journey and you’d find it a bit difficult to explain if stopped that dropping brownies off was a part of your daily exercise.
To be honest I think it is journeys like this that will result in the allowance of daily exercise being taken away from us. People are pushing the boundaries all the time.
I wouldn’t eat them either, but that’s because I’m so scared of getting the virus.

Yes I did. And putting brownies on a doorstep isn’t exercise. It isn’t essential - it’s the WALK that is allowed. Not the ‘oh I will just do this along the way what harm can it do’

Get a damn grip. Nothing is wrong with that, youc an make a stop off on a walk. He didn't say specifically you can't and they didn't even interact with the friend. 12 feet away! People like you are the reason for the heightened anxiety

you presumably breathed when getting brownies out of oven & packing them?? you understand the principle of droplet infection???

Of course it is different!!!

Not sure you have quite enough exclamation marks there, if you pop in a few more it'll really get your point across.

Apparently @Ethelfleda must be an "insider* in the government as she is now making up the rules that we all must follow. Sorry, didn't realise you were in charge

People like you are the reason for the heightened anxiety

And people like you are why we ended up with this "lockdown" scenario rather than just "social distancing".

The general public are stupid and constantly trying to bend the rules to fit their own wants.

It’s people like this that will mean the rest of us have our one walk a day taken from us in a few week’s time.

Mumwon

The virus cannot be transmitted by breathing

There has to be transference. The risk via food is minuscule. Stop overreacting.

OP, sorry for all the crazy posts. Once again, you did a nice thing!

I honestly never realised that our population was this thick.