I didn't do anything wrong....did I?

[Funkyslippers]

DD desperate to see her friend who lives a few streets away. She made brownies and we dropped them on her doorstep, went back onto the pavement around 12 feet away, DD called her and she came to the door, took the brownies and said thank you.

They then call each other while we're walking home (social distancing all the way but not many people around) and her older sister shouts in the background "her mum let her do that? That was stupid!!!" meaning we shouldn't have brough the brownies round to her house. I couldn't see anything wrong with it. I mean, the postman delivers mail to houses each day. Am I missing something? Or is she worried about eating contaminated food - we washed our hands thoroughly during the process.

It might possibly not survive going through the gut but it goes into your mouth first - a route for infection.

There are studies being carried out now to discover if it is found in the faeces of the infected (as SARS is) and can become airborne through flushing the loo. Lovely thought

It’s fine if they don’t eat it for 3 days and treat it as contaminated.

Stay home and save lives! For as long as it takes! Even if it takes 6 weeks or 6 months, or 18 months, it's worth it! And repeat

People will die if they have to be in isolation for 18 months. And not of coronavirus.

Sarcasm.

Totally agree with you pish.

Oh sorry MarginalGain

@Gindrinker43

Yet another person who thinks the rules are there to be bent and only apply to everyone else

OP was on her daily exercise walk. They maintained social distancing. We have been explicitly told by the government that dropping food on someone's doorstep is ok.

Which rules were bent?

Anybody on this thread who is saying OP should have considered whether or not the trip was essential hasn't rtft.

OP has stated that this was hers and her daughter's 'daily exercise walk'.

We are allowed out. We're not confined to our houses. That's been made very clear to us.

Stay home and save lives! For as long as it takes! Even if it takes 6 weeks or 6 months, or 18 months, it's worth it! And repeat

We will all be living on the streets in 6 months so will probably die of hyperthermia.

Have the government advised to quarantine post? Not receive food packages? You stick to the rules, as it was part of your exercise. I think it was a sweet gesture in a trying time. Little human moments are important. You kept the distance. You'll probably not do it again, now you've thought more about it, but don't beat yourself up over it

Its ok but pls don't do that next time

@userxx I didn't think my sarcasm was that subtle, but I guess it was.

Yes, I was waiting on the edge of my seat all day for the wad of Farmfoods leaflets the postman shoved through my door.

To be fair the longer this goes on, it might become the highlight of your day.

I think it was a nice thought. Sounds like you are a responsible person who is trying to follow the guidelines and saw this as a 'grey area'. I've been asked to deliver leaflets to my neighbours as part of a neighbourhood assistance scheme. I see little difference. The onus is on each of us to wash our hands, not touch our face and I'd have probably washed my hands after removing the foil. I probably would then have heated the brownies and been thankful for such a thoughtful friend. We have to be sensible, but also watch our humanity and mental health.

You did nothing wrong re leaving your house but it was silly to deliver anything to a house, let alone home-baked goods.

I'd not eat them.

I didn't trust my gym when they said they'd thoroughly cleaned every piece of equipment and no need to bring your own wipes; I didn't trust coffee houses' signs saying we wash our hands thoroughly with staff not wearing gloves; I didn't trust parent friends saying their households were symptom free as they sent their kids to school (two of them outright lied) and I wouldn't trust someone baking brownies not to have touched, coughed on or used potentially contaminated containers and surfaces.

And I'm honestly very laid back usually!!

Kitty

Completely agree and you sound lovely, but we can be kind and thoughtful without coming into contact with people with phone calls and messages. Leaflet giving is very different to baking brownies in your house and taking those to another household.

We have been explicitly told by the government that delivering food to someone's doorstep is ok, even those vulnerable to CV19. What if you bring them fresh veg that you touched in order to get it into the paper bag? What if you buy the shopping one day and deliver it the next (as I did to self isolating friends the other day), because we're only allowed out once a day and it's too far to go to the supermarket and their house in one trip? The shopping spends the night in your house.

Why haven't the government specified 'pre-packaged only'? Why is loose produce still being sold, which could have been handled by any number of people?

Leaflet giving is very different to baking brownies in your house and taking those to another household

How?

Well said - same as I posted yesterday. There's no real consensus so it makes sense to be careful. But honestly guys, I don't often post on here and reading through some of these threads I'm unlikely to again. Please can we be nicer to each other? This discussion, has, at points dissolved into some pretty unpleasant comments that could have been put more gently. We're all scared, some of us have lost loved ones, there's a ton of misinformation flying around and so you'd hope, as intelligent women, we could be a voice of reason in all this. Seems not. I don't like this thread. Over and out.

How is this so different from me going and getting food for someone who is isolating and leaving it on their step? We are allowed to buy food and get it home or to whoever needs it. And we are allowed to go for a daily walk To me it is supportive of a friend.

@otter71

It was unnecessary that's why it was different.

It's the difference between doing something because it is 'essential' or doing it because it is 'a nice thing to do' or because you 'just want to do it'. That is the problems with lots of the questions people have and the choices they are making. We should only be doing something if it is essential.

I'll say it again because it is the basic truth. This virus does not spread itself. It is spread by the actions of human beings

Going to shop and buy food risky but essential
Dropping food for vulnerable people including self isolating people are risky but essential
Having take away is risky but it’s absolutely essential for some people who works late ours
Now all of the above are necessary risk we take

I don’t think we can compare delivering brownies to a house to any of the above. It is not essential and risky. It is unnecessary risk.
Also daily exercises allowed but I don’t think we should use it as excused to do other stuff

We have to minimise the risk we are taking everyday to stop the spreading
The question you are asking where is the rule where is the rule I hope you got your answer here

Same rules for everyone. if part of daily exercise ok but if in addition then no. Some people don't seem to get it!

Is it causing an increase in the risk of infecting someone/being infected?

Yes.

Is it essential?

No.