I didn't do anything wrong....did I?

[Funkyslippers]

DD desperate to see her friend who lives a few streets away. She made brownies and we dropped them on her doorstep, went back onto the pavement around 12 feet away, DD called her and she came to the door, took the brownies and said thank you.

They then call each other while we're walking home (social distancing all the way but not many people around) and her older sister shouts in the background "her mum let her do that? That was stupid!!!" meaning we shouldn't have brough the brownies round to her house. I couldn't see anything wrong with it. I mean, the postman delivers mail to houses each day. Am I missing something? Or is she worried about eating contaminated food - we washed our hands thoroughly during the process.

@Vaginandtonic that's what I wanted to say.

COVID-19 is not food borne. You cannot catch Coronavirus from eating something. But you could catch it from the box the food was in.

Good intentioned but not an essential trip . Especially if no one asked for them !

Any trip outside, which doesn't involve anyone breathing on anyone or being in close contact with anyone, is an essential trip.

Unless suicide is less noteworthy than Covid 19.

Unless suicide is less noteworthy than Covid 19.

Unfortunately the majority of attitudes on MN would suggest that it is. Physical health trumps mental health etc. We seem to have reverted back 20 years with attitudes to mental health, it is awful.

Pishposh, so very well said. Just when there had been advances in mental health, this comes along and sets everyone back to about 1950.

Surely there should be a balance between protecting the physical health of those at particular risk from Covid 19, and protecting the mental health of those who are now trapped indoors (who are almost certainly not the same people).

For goodness sakes, why are people so petty, any virus would have been killed off in the oven whilst they were being cooked. There are people out there cooking meals for people who are vulnerable and delivering them. If you are that obsessed about the virus you wouldn't eat anything from the shops either. Some people are just going OTT over this. It's the thought that counts.

You had good intentions & hopefully she will see that

Ask the question... Was it essential?

Yet another person who thinks the rules are there to be bent and only apply to everyone else.

On the gravestones of many suicides, it will say: "She never made any journeys that weren't essential".

Some of you need to realise the effect of what you are saying, when you are WFH at being mini law enforcers.

Stay. At. Home.
SMH

@GreytExpectations you are not allow to use your daily walk as an excuse to socialise. Not essential. If everyone is going to use daily exercise as an excuse to do other things we fucked up.
Please people just don’t do anything to take risk. Can’t you see how much people are dying.

My goodness such drama queens! Dropping off Brownies has caused all this slagging off!! Wow!!!

Missing the point of the thread I know but the older sister needs to learn some manners

Unfortunately physical health does trump mental health in a pandemic

Explain the suicide refs? This has nothing to do with mental health. If the trip had then the replies would have been different.

My answer to 'I had to get outside because my mh was so poor that I felt suicidal' is different to 'I delivered brownies to people on a non essential journey, when they were not requested by somebody vulnerable'.

If you think food is dangerous because of op touching the packaging the brownies were in then surely you won’t be eating any food unless grown by yourself as that too would have been touched by many many people

Go to bed. Some of us have survived another day. Be thankful for that. Dont go anywhere unless absolutely necessary please. It may only be a couple more weeks. I want you all to survive! Does anyone know anyone who has the virus? I feel so sorry for the lady who has OCD and tried to kill herself. You must feel so desperately sad. Is there anything anyone can do for you? Is there anyone who needs anyone to do anything? My friend is going to drop off some flour for me if she can find any tomorrow. It wil be left on doorstep and I will wave from window. She is going shopping and I have tried to get flour for 2 weeks. I am using it for my own food to feed my three hungry little ones. Goodnight all. Zzzz

Anyone here have a friend that's died?

Yes, two

Just to be clear:

According to the Public Health England "It is very unlikely that you can catch coronavirus from food". They are not saying impossible (yet).

A study in The New England Journal of Medicine found that the CV virus remained stable (ie viable) for 72 hours on plastic and some metals, 24 hours on cardboard and over an hour airborne.

I have seen a few misleading comments on this thread.

This is not armchair hypothesising, these are facts

If it was your daily exercise walk then you’re fine. Up to them if they eat the brownies. Round my way everybody is dropping off baked goods during their daily exercise walk. Cookies, bread etc. Don’t know how that’s any different to receiving a loaf of bread from Tesco? Just antibac wipe over the packaging anything arrives in.

Does anybody else find it strange that it’s unlikely you can catch the virus from food. It can’t survive passing through the gut. Acid etc. How did it survive in the gut of whoever the Chinese person was who ate the pangolin/bat? Does anybody else think the story from the Chinese of how this virus came about is just too flimsy and suspicious?

It’s worrying on here how many people can’t distinguish between a necessary risk (buying food from a supermarket, say) or an unnecessary risk (dropping brownies off for your mate who didn’t ask for them)
They both carry risk. But the fewer ‘risky’ actions we take, the better the chance of slowing the spread.
So don’t take any UNNECESSARY risks... please!

Unless suicide is less noteworthy than Covid 19.

Yes. Also domestic violence, which is on the rise, lots of women trapped in isolation with abusive partners.

Stay home and save lives! For as long as it takes! Even if it takes 6 weeks or 6 months, or 18 months, it's worth it! And repeat.