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No children allowed in supermarket

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flashbac · 25/03/2020 11:52

My sister went to Tesco with her toddler and was told no children allowed from next week. Understand this is wise for infection control but what if you're a single parent with tiny kids and can't do online shopping?

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Shonapop8 · 27/03/2020 00:50

This is my exact situation, me and my 3 boys have been isolating for 7 days, we have another 7 to go. I can't get any online delivery slots til near the end of April. I am going to have to go to a supermarket with my 3 children as i have no other support around. My anxiety is through the roof. I have no idea what i should do. I would be grateful for any advice from anyone on this matter. Thank you in advance 😊

BeetrootRocks · 27/03/2020 00:53

So to be clear, cupar, you would like to see a ban on all children in supermarkets.

Under what age
In all areas?
What about smaller shops? What is your line with them
What provisions do you want in place to ensure that single parent families (which will increase in numbers as the virus takes hold) can obtain food
Given that many areas cannot access deliveries etc
What is your feeling about excluding single parent families who are disproportionately likely to live in poverty from accessing the cheaper food available at the supermarkets? By definition these families have children and are struggling. You see this as a necessary sacrifice?

amispeakingenglish · 27/03/2020 00:57

Get REAl... Children are asymptomatic.. You are risking people's lives if your child is infected and you won't even know they are. Children should not be allowed out AT ALL.
I have four all grown up now so not anti child or anything, just sensible.
For instance some STUPID COW today in park allowed her 5 yr old to stop right behind me on his bike, when I said something she said he wasn't aware as only 5, not but YOU ARE YOU BLOODY STUPID COW, so do your job and parent. Apparently they say now to not let anyone pat your dog too as it can be carried on them. If you care about others and your own family keep children away from people.

amispeakingenglish · 27/03/2020 00:58

There is plenty of local help to get shopping etc. all over the UK, so no excuse.

Shonapop8 · 27/03/2020 01:09

@doghairismyglitter well said👏... reading a lot of the comments on here is making my anxiety worse, I am dreading doing a food shop next week (when allowed) with my 3 children but i have no other choice but to take them.

cmat · 27/03/2020 01:28

The major problem here is that they are focusing on the wrong problem, and by doing that they are missing the real threat. Infectious disease experts have said time and again that there is no evidence children spread the SARS Cov-2 virus (which causes Covid-19).
With more than half a million cases world wide and extensive contact tracing, that lack of evidence is becoming evidence in itself. This is NOT like influenza, where children were super spreaders. This virus has a totally different transmission pattern. It goes adult to adult and adult to child, but there is not evidence of children spreading it to other children or adults. This is why there have been no documented cases of school-based clusters, they have all be adult gatherings - churches, ski resort bars, restaurants, weddings.
Experts are still trying to work out why children don't seem to spread the virus, but this was also the case with the SARS outbreak in 2003, caused by the closely related SARS CoV virus. Sorry to sound like a Nigel KnowItAll. I am not an expert, but I do listen to the experts and they keep trying to tell people children are not the spread risk, other adults are. We all need to be aware of this because I fear we are missing the real dangers and continuing to spread this. It is not ``dirty children'' spreading and getting this - at the moment it's the jet set.
Please don't let the misnomer around children lead to lax precautions between adults. Here's a linke to an article that has some informed opinion for actual infections disease experts around children as spread risks. Thanks. theconversation.com/schools-are-open-during-the-coronavirus-outbreak-but-should-i-voluntarily-keep-my-kids-home-anyway-if-i-can-we-asked-5-experts-134022

PotholeParadise · 27/03/2020 01:52

amispeakingenglish think this is a point I made earlier, but clearly I need to make it again.

People's lives depend on us all having a sense of altruism, and a willingness to endure personal inconvenience (such as self-isolation) for the benefit of others, even they're perfect strangers. We must build a community spirit.

If you wish to benefit from altruism, you must also show it, or things devolve into every (wo)man for themselves.

In plain English, that means that if you are a complete Dolores Umbridge, your next door neighbour maybe won't be willing to make do with what's in the house before his self-isolation is up and will pop to the shop while still infectious. Have a think about it, and try to keep your nastier thoughts inside until the crisis is over. If you do your best to destroy any nascent community spirit, it might actually be you who catches Covid-19 and dies from it.

clairelouise1975 · 27/03/2020 02:11

It’s a nightmare I have two SEN kids ages 8 and 20 husband with lung illness so he’s in isolation for 12 weeks if I have to go out my 20 year old will help me as I suffer with bad back diabetes etc as well so we can’t all go on our own I have to leave my youngest with my husband otherwise we be stuffed haven’t been out for over a week and fed up can’t get any online deliveries and he is vunerable nothing til middle April !!

booearing · 27/03/2020 03:28

I am in wales and I was in Tesco yesterday there is a one in and one out policy and one person per family no children apart from single parents with children.

SQuueze · 27/03/2020 06:53

@cmal. I think there’s some debate that they may be able to spread while having v mild symptoms, they just don’t know yet.

Taurusdragon · 27/03/2020 07:08

Soupdragon
What. The. Actual?!!
Open your tiny mind and stop posting ignorant things that just rile people up without being remotely helpful Angry

Rainbow · 27/03/2020 07:30

When to Costco yesterday and was told only 1 child was allowed in and I had to leave one in the car!!!! When I said you are joking right? He said no to have to leave one outside or in the car. I have a 9yo with SEN and a 6yo.

LoveNursing · 27/03/2020 07:33

@TeddyIsaHe This is completely insane. No delivery slots in any supermarkets until June

Where did you get June from?!

skyblu · 27/03/2020 07:40

BeetRoot Rocks on page 1...
Completely agree!
Sums it up, spot on.

LoveNursing · 27/03/2020 07:50

@Waspie We are looking at every opportunity to increase the number of slots available. As we increase our capacity, we will also set aside more of these slots for our most vulnerable customers.
The strange this is Tesco is one of the supermarkets that doesn't have any provision for elderly or vulnerable online slots! There's no dedicated phone line or way to register with them, so what on earth is he talking about?!

LoveNursing · 27/03/2020 07:52

@BilboBercow do you know how Tesco intend to preserve online slots for vulnerable? There's no way to register this with them at the moment.

Therapywitch · 27/03/2020 08:02

No delivery slots available. I had an email from Sainsbury’s last night saying they are giving slots to priority groups but they have had 270k new registrations for that that they need to sort through. I am a single parent with a child of 5 so at the best of times I try not to bring her with me but with no school and parents and others in isolation i really have no option but to take her Shopping sometimes. Tesco have not thought this through.

Mmarmite · 27/03/2020 08:15

I’m a single mum of two under 6. I have volunteered to shop and deliver food for those in isolation. That’s just more of us in the queue for online shopping and many of the elderly aren’t set up and able to shop online so if people like me can no longer help them, who will?

SallyB392 · 27/03/2020 08:31

Just to put people right on two facts:

  1. Children CAN catch Coronavirus, and infect others in the same way as adults
  2. Some children can become VERY poorly with the infection

You need to protect your children in exactly the same way as adults.

ThumbWitchesAbroad · 27/03/2020 08:38

@Taurusdragon - did you not notice that Soupdragon was in fact quoting some other dickhead? Soupdragon was also querying the sanity of the point. Suggest you apologise as your vitriol is heavily misplaced.

Taurusdragon · 27/03/2020 08:54

My apologies. I got angry at the wrong person.

Wannabangbang · 27/03/2020 09:38

Got an email this morning Tesco online are now delivering to the vunerable, elderely and self isolating only just the same as sainsburys. Brilliant just brilliant yet people are saying you can't take your kids shopping. Well wtf are single parents supposed to do now.

The lack of support for the single parents group is shocking and to the previous poster who said theres loads of help, who exactly from.

Come of it some of you have no flipping clue what its like to carry food on foot with no car for a large family singularly and if that person cant take her fekkin kids where is she supposed to leave them

Some people make me so bloody angry and i hope your husbands and partners leave you so you will understand how it bloody feels for single mums with little ones who can't get any food. You bunch of selfish wizards!

strawberrylipgloss · 27/03/2020 10:27

@LoveNursing
I received this info from Sainsbury’s yesterday

No children allowed in supermarket
No children allowed in supermarket
No children allowed in supermarket
BeetrootRocks · 27/03/2020 10:38

'When to Costco yesterday and was told only 1 child was allowed in and I had to leave one in the car!!!! When I said you are joking right? He said no to have to leave one outside or in the car. I have a 9yo with SEN and a 6yo.'

Bloody hell.
What did you do?

Wannabangbang · 27/03/2020 10:43

Fwiw i do think the supermarkets are trying there hardest but what im saying is what is a single parent supposed to do and how can people shop for you when there are so many restrictions. I really do think larger familys or people helping others should have some sort of card they can show entitling them to a few extra items.

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