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No children allowed in supermarket

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flashbac · 25/03/2020 11:52

My sister went to Tesco with her toddler and was told no children allowed from next week. Understand this is wise for infection control but what if you're a single parent with tiny kids and can't do online shopping?

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Trumpton · 25/03/2020 16:06

@diddl
This is Tesco in the Isle of Man . We have one on the whole island ( population 85,000)
They are horribly overstretched even in normal times .
Our Co-op shops are wonderful but tend to be small .
We have 5 Shoprite stores and 3 Little Shoprite shops and then we have independent small scale shops and suppliers and a M&S food hall.
All freight comes in by daily boat .
We are blessed with a huge community spirit and many help groups have sprung up .
I am in quarantine after chemo and a mastectomy last week and as a family we are self isolating . It’s not easy for anyone and my heart goes out to all .

Jaxhog · 25/03/2020 16:06

Is it going to take a single family to starve to death to make people realise that this is a stupid ill thought out selfish policy.

Don't be so bloody ridiculous. Is it going to take thousands of vulnerable people to die before you see the sense of this? Ask a neighbour. Or a friend.

Angryrant55 · 25/03/2020 16:11

Plenty of people will simply get piss off im busy from their neighbours.

ACertainSupermarket · 25/03/2020 16:12

Most of the supermarkets are now looking to implement a one trolley one person policy ASAP.
I don't know if exceptions will be made.
Today, again so many couples having a nice wander and dilly-dallying over the (well-stocked) shelves. People with non-essential things like crisps and wine, not a weekly shop. construction workers buying their daily lunch (I am now taking packed lunch rather than touch anything in the canteen). Still a lot of adults taking their elderly relatives out (wtf - get them to write a list!) Small groups of teenagers buying an energy drink and sweets.
And some families, including:

  • two parents about 30ish with their FOUR children, laughing and oblivious to all the staff glaring at them
  • a dad with three teenagers who could clearly stay home alone.

I did not feel safe today.

Remember everything on the shelf will have already been handled by workers putting the stock out. I read today that a virologist is saying the virus stays alive on fruit and veg too - just imagine all the avocados that have been squeezed and put back!

FedupwithCFs · 25/03/2020 16:13

These idiots ringing supermarket’s head offices on this thread, don’t you think they might have enough to do right now? Confused

Anyway fwiw, someone on a local group (Not IOM) is ranting she was told the same at a Tesco Express today.

Angryrant55 · 25/03/2020 16:15

Stopping people eating non essential things is a recepie for the british public cheering as bejing is bombed.

haggistramp · 25/03/2020 16:16

Is it going to take thousands of vulnerable people to die before you see the sense of this? How does thousands of people die because a single parent took her 2 children to the shop with her.

ACertainSupermarket · 25/03/2020 16:16

@Angryrant55 I'm not saying they shouldn't eat them! Just put them in your big shop and don't keep nipping in for non-essential bits!

TeenyQueen · 25/03/2020 16:18

These are exceptional times so unfortunately exceptional measures must be taken. Just heard that New York state reported 5,000 new cases in one day. This is a life and death situation for a lot of people. Just an idea, many petrol stations are pretty well stocked with basic foods like milk, bread, cereals etc. It may be more expensive but could you do that? Park your car close to the entrance within your line of sight, dash in to get the basics to keep you going for a few days and dash back? This would take you 5-10 min? Promise the children a treat if they are well-behaved in the car? A baby would have to come out with you but older children may be fine for a couple of minutes if you can still see them. Only in these exceptional circumstances obviously.

Apparently Morrisons does a basics box for £35, designed to last 2 adults a week. Apparently they do a next day delivery.

ACertainSupermarket · 25/03/2020 16:18

@Angryrant55 Sorry I didn't make that clear - a basket with just wine and crisps!

LittleRootie · 25/03/2020 16:19

Are single parents really saying that they don’t have a single friend/neighbour who could pick up some groceries when they’re getting their own

Why would you doubt it? The structure of society hasn't suddenly changed because of CV. Some single parents are very isolated, some cannot trust their neighbours and their friends may not be in a position to help. It's a helpful idea but it mustn't be applied without exceptions.

BeetrootRocks · 25/03/2020 16:20

This spitting people into groups and pitting then against each other is awful.

There are ways to manage this. If Tesco are capable of turning away a family with 2 adults and children why must they also turn away 1 adult with a baby in a sling?

And now we have posters saying it's ok for single parent families in poverty, who already had trouble feeding their children, to be locked out of the large cheaper shops, putting them in an even worse position. Even the prospect of children dying is seen as ok to protect others.

It's mind boggling.

Our society is fucked up.

TheSheepofWallSt · 25/03/2020 16:21

I just had to go to the supermarket for essentials with my 3 year old (lone parent). Put him in the buggy, used my own bags instead of a basket and whizzed round as fast as possible.

We weren’t the problem in that store. The problem was the family of 6 who refused to observe social distancing.

The elderly woman in a face mask who refused to observe social distancing and queue in the designated spaces.

The woman coughing without covering her mouth in the fresh produce aisle.

The bloke who came in for a pasty and a drink and got abusive with checkout staff because of the new queueing system.

My son and I were NOT the problem. In fact the man at the checkout said I was the calmest, most polite person they’d had in all day.
I was surprised because inside I was screaming. It was vile. But there are no delivery slots at all available from any store. My family who would usually help are all self isolating for severe asthma.
My sons father is 300 miles away.

So... what am I to do?

ArriettyJones · 25/03/2020 16:24

Where’s Dad? (Unless he’s dead/mia in which case apologies obv)

You do realise how many Dads ARE “dead/MIA”?!

There are TWO MILLION single parents in the U.K., most of them women, many of them functioning completely solo.

flossyflorenceflounces · 25/03/2020 16:28

Are single parents really saying that they don’t have a single friend/neighbour who could pick up some groceries when they’re getting their own

Yes. Why do you not understand that?

Waspie · 25/03/2020 16:33

And yet the email from Dave Lewis sent less than an hour ago makes no mention of a ban on children so this is yet more fake news.

Email in full with my bolding:

We wrote to you last week setting out the measures we are taking to provide more of the food that people need, in a safe and clean environment.

Our colleagues have risen brilliantly to the challenges of recent days, but this challenge is unprecedented and inevitably, despite our hard work and best intentions, not everything has or will go exactly to plan. But we’ll take learnings, we’ll be informed by the latest guidance from the Government, and we’ll keep going.

Importantly, we need your help to do this.

With that in mind, following the Prime Minister’s recent announcement, we wanted to write and update you on the measures we continue to take, and what new things you will begin to see in our stores in the next few days.

Food for all

To ensure more people have access to everyday essentials, we have introduced a storewide restriction of 3 items per customer on every product line and removed multi-buy promotions.
In product areas where demand is particularly high, we have simplified our range to get more of the most popular products on shelves.
We have introduced a special hour in stores for NHS workers as a thank you for all they are doing. On Sundays, they can browse our large stores and select their shopping an hour before the checkouts open. All we ask is, if you’re an NHS worker, that you bring a form of ID to store, such as an NHS staff card.
We have listened to feedback and are looking at how we can extend this to include extra days from next week.
To ensure our more vulnerable and elderly customers can shop for what they need in our large stores, we have prioritised one hour every Monday, Wednesday and Friday morning between 9-10am.
We know that it’s difficult right now to get a delivery slot for online shopping.
We are at full capacity for the next few weeks and we ask those who are able to safely come to stores to do so, instead of shopping online, so that we can start to free up more slots for the more vulnerable.
We are looking at every opportunity to increase the number of slots available. As we increase our capacity, we will also set aside more of these slots for our most vulnerable customers.
We have more stock coming into stores every day, with up to double the usual amounts of key essentials arriving – but we need everyone’s help: please buy only what you need, so that there is enough for everyone.

Safety for everyone

To ensure we are doing everything possible to reduce the risk of infection for our customers and colleagues, we will begin to introduce new social distancing measures in stores in the coming days.

Floor markings in our car parks will help you to maintain safe distances when queuing.
Where necessary, we will limit the flow of people coming into our stores to ensure they don’t get too congested.
Hand sanitisers are being placed around our stores for customers and colleagues to use, as well as extra cleaning products to wipe down your trolley or basket.
In some stores, we will introduce directional floor markings and new signage, to create a safe flow around the store.
New floor markings will help you to keep a safe distance from others while waiting to pay.
We are installing protective screens at our checkouts.
Where possible, we will create separate entrances and exits to our stores, so that it’s easier to keep a safe distance from other shoppers.

Supporting our colleagues

We are fully supporting our team of more than 300,000 Tesco colleagues, many of whom will be affected by this situation personally or will need to care for their own loved ones. The countless messages of gratitude I’ve received are testament to the incredible job they are doing, at a time when our stores have never been busier. Your small gestures and kind words really do go a long way.
We have almost 3,000 colleagues over the age of 70 and we are fully supporting them, as well as our vulnerable and pregnant colleagues, with 12 weeks’ fully paid absence.
Colleagues who are in isolation are receiving full pay from their first day of absence, so that nobody finds themselves in a situation where they have to work when unwell.
To help support our team, we are recruiting an additional 20,000 temporary colleagues. We’ve already appointed 12,500 new colleagues, but we will need more. We are also bringing in 8,000 new colleagues in driving roles, and we are training them as fast as we can.

It’s a challenging time for the whole country, but we are committed to playing our part in feeding the nation and to keeping everyone safe. We also need your help to change the way you shop with us, so here are a few simple requests to help us serve you better:

Please check your store's opening hours in advance.
Before you leave home, please bring enough bags for your shop. If it’s raining, don’t forget an umbrella too, in case you need to queue outside the store.
Try to shop with no more than one other person, which will help to reduce the number of people in-store at any one time.
Please use our cleaning stations to wipe your trolley, basket, or Scan as you Shop handset.
If possible, use card or contactless payments.
Please avoid shopping during our dedicated times for vulnerable and elderly people, and NHS workers, and be kind to our colleagues as they’re working hard to serve you; we’re all in this together.
We want to thank our suppliers, our colleagues – and especially you, our customers – for understanding and helping.

We know these are some big changes, and we will all need to do our very best to adjust. We will continue to update you as things change.

Together, we can do this.

Dave Lewis

Tesco CEO

Willow2017 · 25/03/2020 16:37

That has already been interpreted by ops local store as no children Waspie. What is she supposed to do?

ACertainSupermarket · 25/03/2020 16:38

@posterhaggistramp how many single parents are there in the UK? It wouldn't be ONE single parent that would be the problem, would it, make one exception and everyone thinks it's ok not to follow sensible rules.
Even that ONE single parent could be the one who unknowingly is incubating the virus, or is a carrier, who infects 3 people that day who then all go on to infect 3 each....or that ONE could pick up the virus and become another of the scarily young victims.
Come to think of it, all of us are in that scenario every time we go to the shops...

EverydayLife · 25/03/2020 16:47

Who can look after your children if we are on lockdown?

I wouldn’t have anyone anyway as my dc is disabled and my elderly parents are isolating for three months. Some people on this thread need to get real.

Lesat · 25/03/2020 16:50

is this all supermarkets or just Tesco? Can you shop somewhere else? if you can you might even like it better than Tesco.

Leflic · 25/03/2020 16:57

BeetrootRicks No. The one person in at a time applied to couples as well. Only ONE person in with each trolley.

Oldbutstillgotit · 25/03/2020 16:59

One of my friends saw a couple having a complete meltdown at the door of our local co-op as the security guard told them that only 1 adult could go in and the other had to wait outside or in the car with the DC. Apparently they always shop as a family .

Sparrowlegs248 · 25/03/2020 17:01

Bloody hell. I'm single parent, 3 and 4 yr olds. Canter an online delivery slot. To be fair I could do with losing weight but not keen on starving the children..

RoryGillmoresEvilTwin · 25/03/2020 17:01

I've lived in my home for 3 months. I don't know my neighbours and considering they have their own kids I very much doubt they're going to do a full weeks shopping for me, a stranger.

Some people are so short sighted and sanctimonious. Maybe some people have an army of willing volunteers to help them but I don't. I have parents who are isolating for 12 weeks and friends who are also isolating with their kids. That's it.

Wannabangbang · 25/03/2020 17:03

Seems single parents will always be thought of as scum looking at this post. Sorry but if a mum can't shop with her kids hows she supposed to get food. Fed up with people who are in couples blasting us all. Shall we all starve then.

Im lucky i can leave mine with eldest son but other people don't have that option and this rule is taking away their rights to bloody eat.

For the record my kids when i used to have to bring them in tow few years back didn't run around like loons like you are all suggesting.
Because despite what you think towrags and bad parenting doesn't always come from us single mums. Infact I've seen people in couples in the past not watching their kids properly and letting them run amock.