AIBU to despair about the amount of posters who already think the rules don’t apply to them?

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How can anyone look At what is happening around the world and still think it’s okay to go to their holiday rental/get their nails done etc?
I don’t know whether some posters are deliberately obtuse or genuinely don’t understand (not sure how much clearer Boris could have made it tbh) but I’m actually more scared now than I have been previously due to some of the posts on here tonight

We’ve got no hope have we?

Saw old lady go past with her paper.

Must be harder when you are alone & elderly

@Eckhart it’s been all over the new this morning that it has been deemed a medical need and also helping vulnerable people - no assumption necessary on this one.

So there's a grey area, then, Life. Something where you could listen to Boris' 100% clear guidelines, and then have to go and check with an official body, because the guidelines weren't 100% clear.

Have you seen how many morons talk about needing clothes/make-up/hair products/ birthday bunting for the sake of their "mental health"?

It's surreal how stupid these people are.

You can still go to non-urgent hospital appointments. I know because I rung them up to ask.

*some, obviously. Can’t speak for all, clearly

Its only been all over the news because it wasn't clear from BJ's list of rules! Somebody's suddenly gone 'Shit!! Boris has just essentially told people not to donate blood!! Quick!! Tell them they still can!!'

If Boris had been clear, it wouldn't need to be all over the news, would it.

Just look at all the fucking idiots saying he wasnt clear enough. Stay in your fucking home unless its food shopping gettjng medicine or work. (And gov documents include bank and vets). Literally Stay kn your fucking home. For at least 3 weeks. You honestly could not get clearer than that.

@Eckhart did you want Boris to say - well Charlotte at number 22 acacia avenue yes your business is vital to society so you can continue it?

We are adults, humans have advanced decision making capabilities with the ability to assimilate lots of information. We are able to understand the landscape of where we live and adapt to fit into our changed environment.

The blood service have said yes it’s ok to donate.

Life, it's not a biscuit, it's actually a cats-bum.

The point I'm making is that delivering lectures rather than just answering the question (and I'm a keen lecture-giver myself, much to my chagrin) doesn't do anything other than make people give themselves permission to do whatever unwise thing it was. Sometimes, just saying, "No, that's banned now" or similar would get the point home. If that's what the purpose of the lecture was?

I don't mean to be snippy, I just can't understand the point of frequenting a chatboard just to keep telling people that they're selfish twats because sometimes, the answers aren't really as black and white as supposed.

Example:
Food shopping - what is an elderly person who has no neighbour or family to do this for them, to do? What if they can't go during 'elderly hour' (as was)? What if there are no FB community groups in proximity?

It may be that the answer is out there, somewhere, but this board is a wealth of knowledge and it's usually kinder than this. I roll my eyes at every 'am I pregnant?' thread, I don't post on them because that person posting wants something, some sort of validation, contact with people, whatever. If I can't or won't give it, better that I eye-roll and move along.

This though, this is affecting every single person one way or another. People are sometimes just making conversation and as irritating as it can be, railing and ranting and name-calling is just horrible... it also achieves absolutely nothing. I know you didn't name call but many posters have, and are falling over themselves to do it too.

WeAllHaveWings yup. You summed it up nicely. Absolute muppets.

I have a dental appointment in two weeks, it's just a checkup so I can easily cancel and reschedule - but I don't know to do that because it's not 'on the list'... or not, not on the list.

For me, my teeth are fine, I don't need to go, it can wait, but clear-cut it isn't.

Thank you, Life, you just made my point for me.

If the speech was clear and not open to differing interpretations, no decision making would be necessary. It's only in the case where there are different interpretations that decision making becomes necessary.

Old people are meant to be in isolation. You go out... you die. Simple self preservation but also mandated by the gov since the beginning

No. The actual advice is that they should be stringent in practicing social distancing. Do you just make this dramatic stuff up as you go along?

You're wrong, LyingWitch

The best way forward is definitely to call people things like 'fucking-twat-arse-basket!!', and tell them they're so stupid that they're going to end the world, and that they're so thick, they'll never understand. But, and this is the important bit, you don't give them an actual answer to their actual question.

marchez do you talk to everybody like this?

It's not about finding 'loopholes', it's about getting clarification on something. I don't need a response because it was an example of my point and I know that I don't need to go but, dentists are more important than hairdressers 'on the scale' so it's realistic that people will ask.

They're free to ask too. They don't deserve to be talked to as if they're stupid.

I know, Eckhart, I'm still waiting for somebody to answer the 'elderly people going shopping' question because, so far, the best put-down is "you go out you die".

Well, people who don't eat die too.

We look out for the elderlies here, I dropped off some lasagne that I made. Did a sort of charitable, rat-a-tat ginger thing - dump it on the doorstep in a bag, ring the bell and move away to the end of the path, giving a cheery wave when they opened the door.

We shop for them too. Some people don't have that facility.

I thought he was very clear. Of course people have questions, but he couldn't possibly have brought up every single individual question and circumstance in that speech, or it would have gone on for a very long time.

My concern about statements like "you go out, you die" is, what about older people who for some reason have to go out? Is the thinking that you're going to terrify people into obedience? Because that may work for some, but it will also cause others a lot of unneeded anxiety and promote panic.

Older people should try to maintain as much distance from others as possible in order to avoid infection. Leaving your house is not an automatic death sentence. These things can both be true at once, and I'm not seeing how encouraging blind panic and shouting at people for being a bit confused is helping any of us.

Clearly, too many people are so used to being cosseted by society and their snowflake behaviour condoned, that when a real crisis occurs, they ramp up their needy behaviour. On sites like this one, that manifests itself in the form of inane - and insane - questions.

The PM was perfectly clear.

I'm at work today, we're a small retailer who offer mail order and five of us have come in to clear the decks before we close indefinitely. We haven't been open to the public for a week. We've already had at least one call asking if we're open for counter service.

I'm still waiting for an answer on whether it's better for me to take my dog for 3 brief walks per day (to service her toileting needs), or to have a carpet covered with dog excrement. The best answer I've had is that I shouldn't have got a dog if I didn't have a garden. Oh, and that people like me are the ones who will bring down the NHS.

I think re the old people, it was the shuffling that was the problem. Shuffling denotes stupidity and you're not allowed to be stupid or do a stupid thing, here. Not without torrents of abuse, anyway.