Stay at home, go to work

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What is deemed absolutely necessary when deciding to go to work? Many self employed, builders for example, will want or crack on with their jobs so they get paid. Has Boris done enough?

I am guessing you can't claim 80% of your pay unless your boss sends you home. Does anyone know where you stand on this. What if your boss ignores government description of essential work and insists you continue to work in your place of work? Can a worker decide they disagree? I suspect not.

CamperVan69
it doesn't really matter what your boss says or wants to do now, as the prime minister has just decreed that you must stay at home. Brits are finding it remarkably hard and slow to realise that the restrictions mean them, and are more important than their own individual circumstances.

It does actually say Key workers on the list on the government Facebook video though? Why can't they be more clear? It's so frustrating!
@MovingTowardsANewPositivity please can you give me the link?

So Boris is going to pay me then is he? because my husband is self-employed and has no work from Wednesday so my income will be the only thing that's keeping food on the table and the electricity bill paid.

So what do I do with my boss? Just ring him up and tell him that somebody on Mumsnet has told me that I don't have to go to work anymore and he must pay me?

@horsesaremylife Literally just copied and pasted from gov.uk so not sure how I'm wrong?

Don't Italy, France and Spain all allow people to go to work if they cannot work from home?

Sounds like it can wait but I need my phone for my keyworker job;

If you need it for your work, your employer should be arranging this.

please can you show me where the government have actually said this because we cant find it anywhere.

Because its bloody obvious. Do you think Gregg's werent aware this was happening when they decided to close? Or mcdonalds?
Or the business up and down the country that implemented working from home today.

Its common sense. If you have employees in an open office you I'll need to prove they must be there.

I dont know how some people run businesses. Since this started we have been preparing to prove our people are key workers. Honestly, the people on the ground are. The office staff can work at home.

We work with the health and safety executive and other government departments. Bob who runs a law firm on the high street wont be able to demand his staff come in anymore.

Everytime these announmensts come out, people want every obscure question answered immediately, within minutes.

An announcements has been made. The detail will come out in the next few days.

Just like the 80% pay details are not all fully out yet, but will be confirmed early april.

Things take time. It seems people take advantage of thing taking time to whinge 'it's not clear so I am going to do what I want anyway'

@BritWifeinUSA literally Barclays have sent a text telling us about the three month mortgage holiday. The banks are doing what the government have said they're doing.

It's not that hard to understand..?

My DH just got an email he has to go in tomorrow. He works in a warehouse, sending out completely non essential items. He works with 40+ people. I’m so angry.

If his employer shut the company he could get 80% of his wage from the government & we could survive but as long as they are open for business if he doesn’t go he gets the £90 odd a week which we can’t survive on.

I feel like his employer has basically said fuck you to him & our family. They know there is a risk of spread with that many people enclosed for 9 hours a day. They don’t care, because as it happens... they’re quite busy at the moment.

It just makes me realise how much money comes before people, even people’s lives. I’m so angry.

Govt Guidance

Still not much clarity but not quite how people perceived the announcement.

"I am guessing you can't claim 80% of your pay unless your boss sends you home."
My husband works in the construction industry he has work till Sept he does not need today staff off, the gov website doesn't say you're get the 80% if your laid off to protect you from Covid19 to says "identify who you need to lay off" my DH as an employer doesnt need to lay anyone off as he has work.

I have posted this on another thread. My oven broke this evening. My boiler is playing up - the heating works but the hot water is hit and miss. Is that essential??

Agreed also office workers are all still being forced to go in.

Not they aren't! Most that I know are already working from home.

And I don't think it's unclear. Essential means essential for the country to survive.

DH and his firm need to finish putting the roof on someone's house tomorrow, is that essential? He doesn't want to literally leave them without a roof over their heads.

How is your husband running a business if he cant make such a basic decision?

"@Hellswithbigbells" you link says travel to work if you cant want work from home it doesn't sat only travel to work if you're employed in essential area.

It's very difficult to say what is an 'essential' job and what isn't. Obviously all key workers. But what about people who work in factories or on farms? If they don't work, who is going to produce the food and packaging for food?

Will someone please please show me where show the government has said "dont go to work unless you work in certain essential area".
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"Travelling to and from work, but only where this absolutely cannot be done from home."

It is not essential work (as in essential to the country) but essential to the work that you do.

I'm not saying I think that is right, but that is from the govt guidance just published.

As a banker, trying to get those government grants out to small businesses and process those mortgage holidays everyone needs. I understand why we were on that key workers list.

However, try and explain that to DC’s school who are only accepting NHS staff’s DC. Not a chance. So I’m WFH with 2 small kids not being as productive as I could be at work, along with the rest of my colleagues. 🤷‍♀️

@Campervan69 is it a solicitors firm? A list came out of “essential legal services” it’s really narrow. If you do other things then report to the SRA

@horsesaremylife it certainly does. That is the Government advice as of tonight. Nothing more or less.

They haven’t told non essential businesses to close only those ones where the public may gather so the laboratory I work in is still open.

If they meant only key workers can work, that’s what they would have said. The guidance is clear. If you absolutely cannot work from home, then you can go to work.

My boiler is playing up - the heating works but the hot water is hit and miss. Is that essential?.

You will find that out if gas engineers and electricians are told they can not operate.

At a guess, hot water is something that is classed as an essential. At least long term. A few hours without is fine.

I used to work in British gas service and repair. If theres no hot water, it was deemed a priority. It may not be same day, depending how busy.

If the government tell companies gas engineers can not go into peoples property, then under any circumstances....then no....its not an essential by their current standards.

Boris wasnt going to stand there and answer questions on every persons, individual issues.

I just spoke with my management...
5 of us (incl. ne) will be going into work tomorrow out of a workforce of 23 people. Just to finish off loose ends that can't be done from home. Than it's lock up until further notice... I think it's sensible under the circumstances. We will be paid the 80% government promise from nx month.