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Please don't put a rainbow in your window!

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RuffleCrow · 23/03/2020 12:28

For the past few years the rainbow has sadly becomea symbol of silencing, sexual stereotyping and oppression for a lot of women and those in the LGB community. If you're thinking of putting one up, please think about how that may make women feel - many of whom have already experienced death threats and lost their friends and jobs thanks to those who wield the rainbow flag as a weapon.

I just saw two on my walk just now and it made me feel like shit. Not the intended effect I'm sure. Please consider something else: the sun coming out from a cloud, or a simple landscape. Thanks.

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IAmFleshIAmBone · 23/03/2020 15:08

You can disagree without being actively rude or cruel. I don't see that it's necessary. But clearly a lot of people on here do. Such vitriol.

Owlypants · 23/03/2020 15:10

What the fuck? As pp have said, a rainbow is a natural phenomenon owned by nobody. The sky isn't mocking you everytime a rainbow is visible

CarolineIngalls · 23/03/2020 15:10

My three year old painted a terrible rainbow. She loves it and loves seeing the others. We reclaim the rainbow.

PenguinBlizzard · 23/03/2020 15:11

Children have drawn rainbows forever!!! Get a great bit grip!!! Seriously more important things to be worried about right now...

fearney · 23/03/2020 15:11

Get some fucking perspective OP. People are dying! Thousands more people are likely to die or become very sick! The economy is going to be in tatters. Some people are not going to see their loved ones/friends/family for a very long time! People have lost their jobs! And you just want to bitch about a group of children painting rainbows to cheer each other up! Boo fucking hoo. Pathetic!

SimonJT · 23/03/2020 15:12

My son has painted a rainbow alongside an odd looking cat, currently taped to the glass balcony front.

ravenmum · 23/03/2020 15:12

OP, are you ignoring the questions that people are asking because you think that everyone already knows what you are talking about, and people are feigning innocence, or asking sarcastically and not because they hope to discuss the issue?

AwrightDoreenTakeAFuckinDayOff · 23/03/2020 15:12

When my dog died there was the biggest fattest rainbow 🌈 in the sky.

Since then, when I see a rainbow I think of her.

I love rainbows.

And my niece says baby unicorns grow from glitter (mum and dad unicorn rub their horns together to produce glitter don’t tell know)

So there. 🦄 plus 🦄 = ✨ (baby 🦄 in the making)

AwrightDoreenTakeAFuckinDayOff · 23/03/2020 15:13

Don’t YE know ...

ravenmum · 23/03/2020 15:13

To be fair, I'd rather talk about conspiracies than people dying.

Cwenthryth · 23/03/2020 15:13

I thought this was going to be a warning about solar-powered rainbow crystals in windows (I have one, it’s pretty and the cat likes to chase the rainbow lights it casts around the room, so glad that it’s not!). But instead.......wowShock

OP, I am an active GC feminist, I was at the meeting near Grenfell that was smoke bombed recently, I am entirely with you on the rainbow flag being hijacked by “trans rights” activists playing genderwang, I too find the flag a little ‘triggering’ for want of a less-cringey word, having been present at several protested meetings etc, followed down the street and yelled at, threatened IRL etc, before you get to all the online abuse directed at my anonymous Twitter account (anonymous for a reason!). I think splashing rainbows on lanyards and sandwiches and corporate social media and police cars etc is ridiculous virtue signalling and unhelpful at best, coercive/exclusionary at worst.

But surely you can see that the rainbow is way, way more than just the flag representing the pride movement that has become so distorted and warped in recent years? Can you not see that? What isolated children are putting in windows has nothing to do with the pride flag/trans movement. Rainbows mean lots of different things, to lots of different people, as evidenced by this flag. I’m most moved by the bereaved mother you have really upset, who wrote about how the rainbow is a symbol for her son of the brother he never got to meet. I have a tattoo of a rainbow bisected by lightning, it’s the design of a brooch my great-grandmother gave me as a child and symbolises family and my ancestors to me.

I understand where you’re coming from but you are being massively unreasonable on this. Activism can take it’s emotional toll on you, believe me I know, perhaps stepping away for a bit and self care etc may be a good idea? This is clearly really upsetting for you but what you’re asking is so out of proportion with the actual real issue. You’re only going to get more pile on here so it’s probably not massively productive to keep doubling down. Please take some time to reflect on the less personal/insulting replies you’ve got here. Flowers hope you and yours stay safe

SapphosRock · 23/03/2020 15:18

@TabbyMumz the OP is a regular on the feminist board and is very much against anyone or anything that vaguely supports the notion of accepting transgender people.

The rainbow flag is a symbol of LGBT pride.

The irony is that transgender people have their own separate flag! And it isn't a rainbow.

Therefore the link to children drawing pretty rainbows is tenuous to say the least.

0v9c99f9g9d939d9f9g9h8h · 23/03/2020 15:18

I think you need to get past this, OP. Rainbows belong to everyone and they're not going anywhere. There isn't anything quite as good as a rainbow for children to draw. You're being a leetle selfish.

RobinHobb · 23/03/2020 15:19

Thanks for the laugh OP
Guessing you're on the wind up

Marpan · 23/03/2020 15:20

I’m Irish so it means there’s a leprechaun with a pot of gold at the end.

Stop being so offended.

RuffleCrow · 23/03/2020 15:21

Thank you @iamfleshiambone

We know that the rainbow flag has been used as cover for pretty much everything from regulation-capture leading to anti-scientific educational materials as standard in schools, and police-led intimidation of those excercising freedom of speech - as well as the destruction of safeguarding. This is well evidenced here on MN and in the broadsheets daily up until CV took over.

But the idea that any of the thousands of genderists out there could start a rainbow-painting craze for young kids on social media? No ! that's a step too far! Impossible! Conspiracy theory!

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tellmewhentheLangshiplandscoz · 23/03/2020 15:22

Excellent post from Cwenthryth

IAmFleshIAmBone · 23/03/2020 15:23

Yes @Cwenthryth said everything I would have liked to say but am not smart enough Blush

TrickyKid · 23/03/2020 15:23

Ffs

DotForShort · 23/03/2020 15:25

Oh, dear. Yes, I'm afraid it is an absurd conspiracy theory. I wish you well, but your posts have no credibility whatsoever.

SoupDragon · 23/03/2020 15:26

Saying i'm uncomfortable with women being sacked for their personal beliefs and children being given untested drugs is not a 'phobia' because a phobia is an irrational fear. It's perfectly rational to fear children being experimented on and women being intimidated.

No, but no one said it was. Being made to feel "shit" by a picture of a rainbow, probably drawn or it up by a child to make themselves feel better is totally irrational.

Enoughisenoughhhhh · 23/03/2020 15:27

If looking at rainbows drawn by local toddlers is making you feel like shit, may I respectfully suggest that you open your eyes to the actual global crisis that is unfolding before us, worsening with every passing moment and having no end in sight?

The world you now live in is one where none of the issues mentioned in the op, once very important indeed I am sure, have any significance whatsoever in the grand scheme of things.

SoupDragon · 23/03/2020 15:27

TBH, this shit is why I hid all the FWR boards.

Zombiemum1946 · 23/03/2020 15:27

Okay, hands up, what the hell is gender critical ?

SapphosRock · 23/03/2020 15:27

But the idea that any of the thousands of genderists out there could start a rainbow-painting craze for young kids on social media? No ! that's a step too far! Impossible! Conspiracy theory!

Let's say your batshit conspiracy theory is right. Why would it have been started by genderists rather than gay people? Seeing as the rainbow flag 🏳️‍🌈 is most commonly a symbol of gay pride and transgender people have a completely different flag?!

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