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Please don't put a rainbow in your window!

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RuffleCrow · 23/03/2020 12:28

For the past few years the rainbow has sadly becomea symbol of silencing, sexual stereotyping and oppression for a lot of women and those in the LGB community. If you're thinking of putting one up, please think about how that may make women feel - many of whom have already experienced death threats and lost their friends and jobs thanks to those who wield the rainbow flag as a weapon.

I just saw two on my walk just now and it made me feel like shit. Not the intended effect I'm sure. Please consider something else: the sun coming out from a cloud, or a simple landscape. Thanks.

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woodhill · 24/03/2020 08:55

Yes, dn painted a rainbow to put in his window. Showed me proudly on face chat

SoupDragon · 24/03/2020 08:57

'Are there any Choc ices in the fridge? - Fine.

😱 That is absolutely NOT fine. They should be in the freezer 😂

Lordfrontpaw · 24/03/2020 08:57

I guess it’s all context. Sometimes threads take a turn from the original topic to general nonsense.

FunkyKingston · 24/03/2020 08:58

That is absolutely NOT fine. They should be in the freezer

That's fridgest.

Cwenthryth · 24/03/2020 09:04

That is absolutely NOT fine. They should be in the freezer
😂

LGB refers to those who share the characteristic of same-sex attraction. Nothing really to do with trans people and it’s not transphobic to say that.

Cwenthryth · 24/03/2020 09:06
  • obv some trans people will also be same-sex attracted, but that’s a separate characteristic from their gender identity, same as its separate from race, religion etc.
BadLad · 24/03/2020 09:09

I'm going to play this tonight.

Please don't put a rainbow in your window!
ravenmum · 24/03/2020 09:13

@OhCaptain - you said it’s not transphobic because OP feels the trans community are being oppressive to the LGB community.
Feeling that the trans community are oppressing the LGB community sounds transphobic to me?
But I have no idea any more...

SoupDragon · 24/03/2020 09:26

That's fridgest.

No, it's just scientific fact.

EmpressLangClegInChair · 24/03/2020 09:38

I agree that rainbow flag nowadays feels homophobic & misogynist as fuck, as do Pride & Stonewall - I used to walk in Pride marches & volunteer for Stonewall. Now Stonewall call the police on me when I protest in favour of lesbian rights.

But I don’t view painted rainbows as the same at all.

SwingSuperiour · 24/03/2020 09:53

Do you have children @OccasionalKite?

SistemaAddict · 24/03/2020 09:55

I was thinking about this again last night. The rainbow of the GBTQ+ is usually straight lines, not the natural curve of an actual rainbow. I think we should reclaim the rainbow for its innocent symbolism and not let anyone corrupt it. The association is tainted for me but with time we can claim it back.

These are unprecedented times for most of us and lots of us will not be thinking as logically as we normally would. Things become more emotive at times like this and anxieties rise.

Ginfordinner · 24/03/2020 10:02

It's not my 'singular belief' @PleaseStopCrying. The link is very well established for many people

I think that you need to amend that to for some people.

there's a whole symbolic language at play that the adults who dream these things up are well aware of but know that children aren't

Well, clearly, they aren’t. I have never heard of rainbows being a symbol of oppression. And the vast majority of adults haven’t either.

You really need to stop looking for offence in what is an innocent symbol for most people and stop playing the victim. If seeing a picture of a rainbow gives you PTSD then you need to seek help for this.
You also need to understand that this is a crisis for everyone. It isn’t all about you. So suck it up and shut up Hmm

MovingBriskyOn · 24/03/2020 10:03

who told you to put a rainbow in the window of your house?

The OP. This thread was the first I'd heard of it. Now told DD and she's drawn one.

WotchaTalkinBoutWillis · 24/03/2020 10:26

If anyone wants to out themselves as a happy-clappy who is naive enough to go and endanger their own family - by posting a picture in their window, that they don't even understand the symbolism of it, let alone the danger....

It's a rainbow, FFS!! THINK about what you're writing. Who do you think is coming to get your kids from a rainbow picture?
Are you suggesting that trans people are?
That is just...... unbelievable and I can't even go there, it's just so.... there's no words.
Don't talk fucking stupid
Couldn't have said it better myself.

WotchaTalkinBoutWillis · 24/03/2020 10:28

For clarity the reason I'm asking if you think it's trans people who would come after seeing the pictures of rainbows is because you've automatically linked to womens rights threads.
They're not coming after children who have put up rainbow pictures, I'm sorry but that's disturbed thinking.

Sparrowlegs248 · 24/03/2020 10:29

@EmpressLangClegInChair please can you explain that to me? I really dont understand it at all.

woodhill · 24/03/2020 10:33

I thought we were all self isolating. Who in their right mind has got the time and inclination to seek out transgressors of rainbows in windows😊

WotchaTalkinBoutWillis · 24/03/2020 10:34

That's fridgest

Grin
WotchaTalkinBoutWillis · 24/03/2020 10:41

But....

Targeted by whom?

You won't get an answer to that because no-one wants to outright come and say by who because they know it is the very definition of being bigoted if they do.
There's some seriously fucked up comments coming from certain quarters.

ocarinan · 24/03/2020 11:20

And by putting rainbows in your windows, you are now making yourselves vulnerable to men who will look at your rainbows and spot a naive person, and turn up at your doors, asking if they can do anything to help you, in this time of crisis.

I will eat my (rainbow) that if this happens even once.

Mysterian · 24/03/2020 11:22

Not that there's any kind of phobia on here of course.

NoMorePoliticsPlease · 24/03/2020 11:27

Wow this is an amazing piece of . The only way to stop all this nonsense is for everyone to put a rainbow in their window. I dont know what percentage of the population are aggressive Trans or LGB but by god they make a lot of noise. Rainbows in windows has no part in this "discussion". All parents take a stand and distance. Leave our children alone. How can we teach them diversity and tolerance if this is the stuff crashing around?

Redrosesandsunsets · 24/03/2020 11:35

Kids have been seeing rainbows in the sky for eternity, and been drawing and colouring them for just as long. What a lovely thing to put in the window.

Redrosesandsunsets · 24/03/2020 11:40

How did the beautiful rainbow in the sky get turned into topics of sexuality, oppression, fighting, scared adults, and all sorts of fighting around names and variations of biological sex? How about it be a picture in the sky after a rainstorm or light rain. End of. Put rainbows back in windows. Get back to basics and move on. A lot of the world is in crisis and people are upset about their gender names and biological sex. Wow.

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