WTF happened to Russell Brand?

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I'm just watching his videos on Youtube and he seems (sorry) WOKE as fuck all of a sudden. WTF happened to him?!

@todayisnottuesday no I left that part out about MYSELF because it is difficult to talk about.

But when you said it happened to him, I said it happened to me too.

The Earth - the way that it is at the moment - many of us have terribly abusive childhoods.

I am really trying not to repeat the cycle.
I generally take out my pain on myself.

Sometimes I think women get too attached to the notion of the man who used to be abusive but "turned it all around" - fulfils fantasies.

@treeshemovie! I agree!

I think the way he talks about his abusive childhood is- to get sympathy from women.

I think him being a spiritual guru - is to get attention from women.

They all fall into the pattern of being a serial abuser

Wow, today, your posts to a poster who has just disclosed CSA are totally out of line.

Today her post is 100% clear.

You need to drop this please.

Love RB, think he's very attractive and intelligent. Saw him do stand up once and he was really genuine on and off stage. I think he could have so easily gone down a different and destructive path and has shown great strength of character to have remained sober and chaste for all these years.

sometimes I think women get too attached to the notion of the man who used to be abusive but "turned it all around" - fulfils fantasies

Certainly not mine. Most men who are abusive do not accept it, they do not address it or seek to change it as they don't think they are doing anything wrong. He has at least recognised and tried to address that side of him. Most don't.

He has managed to beat addictions to heroin, cocaine, alcohol and many other things. Most don't. Credit to him for what he has achieved in that respect. Does this mean that he never acts like an arsehole anymore? I doubt it. Does that mean we should all hate him and write him off as a bad person? No - I don't think it does. But if doing so makes you feel happier, or superior, then by all means carry on.

Wow, today, your posts to a poster who has just disclosed CSA are totally out of line

Report them then. They were not intended to be that way.

For the record - Russel Brand has previously disclosed csa. Where is the compassion for him on here in that respect?

I think the way he talks about his abusive childhood is- to get sympathy from women

Wow. Sorry, but that is a fucking disgusting thing for anyone to say let alone a fellow sufferer of csa.

@todayisnottuesday the difference between me and Russell Brand is that he has hurt many women, he has talked about sexually assaulting them - pushing many women into doing things that they do not want to do sexually.

Are you always this aggressive? You said you are a nurse right, that is meant to be a caring profession, wow! Just wow.

I don't report people ever, not my style.

Everyone can read what you wrote and form their own opinions.

Making a prostitute cry is something I have got stuck on. I didn't know that.

Past abuse might be a reason. But should never be an excuse for abusing others.

@todayisnottuesday I have sympathy for anyone who had a bad childhood.

I do not have sympathy for anyone who goes around abusing loads of people, and then says "oh but feel sorry for me, it is okay that I abused loads of people, because I had a bad childhood"

Today you need to step back, seriously.

BeetrootRocks, I think you need to step back.

I don't know what you are reading into posts or projecting from them - but I see only reasonable and levelled discussion here from todayisnottuesday. Everyone's opinion is equally valid.

@fatedestiny, swearing is reasonable and levelled discussion? She has been aggressive in nearly all of her posts.

I said I volunteered with rape victims, and she said "do you want a prize".

She is aggressive and nasty

I once heard him described as, "an idiot's idea of what an intelligent person sounds like," and thought that was pretty accurate, to be honest!

He certainly always seemed to think an awful lot of himself - however nastily he behaved - while loudly condemning other people so on that basis alone I can't say I've missed the little hypocrite!

swearing is reasonable and levelled discussion?

On Mumsnet, yeah.

He’s a twit.

And must certainly not “handsome”.

shudder

I couldn't stand Him before, absolutely love him now!

Credit to him for what he has achieved in that respect.

Whaaat?😆

I’d give the rat face more credit if he hadn’t dabbled in the first place. Capiche?

He's an idiot. With a dictionary and thesaurus.

He sounds , to me, like he’s playing a game to keep him in the spotlight. Like “every way the wind blows.”

wow! Just wow. wanker alert!!!

"an idiot's idea of what an intelligent person sounds like

Yes. Lots of words. Very little substance behind them.