WTF happened to Russell Brand?

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I'm just watching his videos on Youtube and he seems (sorry) WOKE as fuck all of a sudden. WTF happened to him?!

There are much better examples of celebrities in recovery. Mostly you have to dig quite deep to find out that they even are. The ones ranting on a soap box usually end up being the ones who fall off the wagon. I hope for RBs wife and kid that doesn't happen but 12 steps is meant to be about getting your ego in check and being of service to other people. About being humble. I don't see that with him. I see a man consistently struggling to keep his ego in check.

Come on, we live in a world where some find Donald Trump and Boris Johnson attractive,......

He has all the makings of a cult leader and the eyes of a zealot. Just yuck.

Read the whole thing but can't get over the making a prostitute cry thing. I'm assuming it wasn't cos he said something mean.

Jesus Christ.

Anyone who’s too spiritual to change nappies is a tosser.

I find him very entertaining with his baroque use of language but by god he’s up himself.

Eyes of a zealot is my new favourite insult @weareallsquare 😂

RB good looking ( he's ugly )

*So people with, for example, anorexia, starving themselves to death despite pleas from their loved ones - just selfish are they?

People depressed enough to take their own life that will devastate those who love them - selfish wan hers?

People who inject a drug they know could kill them, but their craving is greater than any fear of death - selfish.

No. Way too simplistic. It's great that some abuse survivors manage to not end up with MH/ addiction problems, but many do, that is a fact. To call that a 'choice' and reduce it purely to selfishness is extremely short sighted.*

@todayisnottuesday what are you talking about. Anorexia and suicide are not cruel acts to others, they are inflicting pain on themselves - which in turn hurts others, but they do not set out to hurt others.

Russell Brand set out to hurt many, many others, and he has talked about it with joy many times. He enjoyed hurting others.

I looked up what his abusive childhood actually was. He had an absent father. I also had an absent father, and while it is very hurtful, I had the same experience as him and I did not choose to hurt many others because I was hurting.

I have no time for him. He has been way to cruel to loads of people. He left Katy Perry suicidal.

I totally disagree that mental health issues make anyone be a selfish wanker

@angell84 - What I was talking about was in response to the above simplistic, blanket comment that you posted earlier.

He had an absent father. I also had an absent father, and while it is very hurtful, I had the same experience as him and I did not choose to hurt many others because I was hurting

You didn't do a very good job looking that up - he was sexually abused by a family friend/ neighbour - it has been mentioned by him in interviews and in his book.

Well done though for not developing addictions/ MH issues as a result of a difficult childhood [hmm)

As the DD of 2 parents who were incredibly selfish in many ways due to their addictions and MH issues, I am able to appreciate that many of their behaviours were due to their illness, not them being 'bad people'.

And as a PP said, cocaine in particular can make people act like selfish wankers who do awful things. Full credit to him for addressing his addictions. He is not perfect, he has acted badly, but he at least admits that. Most don't.

He's delicious.
Eww .
I am very sorry he's had to deal with addictions and abuse. He's still extremely irritating and seems to think the world needs to hear his attention-seeking drivel.

soundcloud.com/siriusxmentertainment/russell-brand-opens-up-about-sexual-abuse

theeyeofmedia.com/russell-brand-admits-alienated-child/

@todayisnottuesday I left that part out. I was also sexually abused as a child, as were many of us!

I decided to help others. I volunteer with rape victims.

Him being a cruel, nasty asshole is HIS CHOICE!!!

He's been spiritual for AGES

I looked up what his abusive childhood actually was. He had an absent father. I also had an absent father

You left that part out...... OK. Not like it's relevant or anything in relation to his BPD/ EUPD....

I decided to help others. I volunteer with rape victims

Which IS extremely admirable. But you sound like you actually want a medal or something.

I too had a difficult childhood and now work in a caring role (nurse). And part of my job is treating and understanding people with addictions, relationship and MH issues - people who may well have behaved badly and made poor decisions - with understanding and compassion. Not writing people off as 'bad people'.

I really do not buy the bullshit that because anyone was abused as a child, it is okay to excuse them to go on and abuse other people.

As a child,

I had one abusive parent
I had the other parent commit suicide.
I was sexually abused by more than one person.

I had a TERRIBLE childhood, and I still did not go on to hurt people the way that Russell beand chose to do. Some of his stories are absolutely horrendous. Have you read everything that he has done?

Well he got himself over his heroin, alcohol and sex addictions.
He did it using the 12Step program, which is a process of taking responsibility for your actions, and changing them so you are no longer self ( and other) destructive.
It takes you away from the worm’s eye view of yourself and the world.
It’s an incredibly challenging thing to do, so you gather some wisdom along the way.
He’s an extrovert so he feels the need to communicate it all.

@todayisnottuesday I meant that I left that part out (being sexually abused) about MYSELF , not him.

But yes I have been through all that stuff too.

I have no time for him at all. I especially hate peoplr who abuse people, like he does, and then goes on to be a "spiritual guru". It is another form of manipulation.

I really do not buy the bullshit that because anyone was abused as a child, it is okay to excuse them to go on and abuse other people

If that is what you think I am saying it is pointless trying to debate anything with you.

Many times I have agreed - he has acted badly at times, yes. He admits that too. As a result, he appears to have taken a good look at himself and addressed that side of him. So what gives you, me or anyone the right to completely write him off as a bad person and hold his past behaviour against him for the rest of his life?

@todayisnottuesday yes we will have to agree to disagree.

I am in judgement of him. I hate men thst abuse women. By the sounds of some of the things that he has done- he should be in jail.

But here he is, out preaching to us.

He did it using the 12Step program, which is a process of taking responsibility for your actions, and changing them so you are no longer self ( and other) destructive.
It takes you away from the worm’s eye view of yourself and the world.
It’s an incredibly challenging thing to do, so you gather some wisdom along the way

Exactly - it is also a very courageous and admirable thing to do IMHO.

I meant that I left that part out (being sexually abused) about MYSELF , not him

No, you left that part out about HIM and posted to imply his 'abusive childhood' consisted solely of having an 'absent father' which is not the case at all. Please stop backtracking, its getting a bit ridiculous now.

y the sounds of some of the things that he has done- he should be in jail

And your evidence for that is?.....

I hate men thst abuse women

Actually, so do I. But perhaps the vanishingly few men like this who DO actually try and address this side of them should not be demonised for it.

he literally always was???

He seems dodgy as hell and a bit of a spiritual narcissist. I don't see how he's made up for all his past abuse of women at all, he still seems like a total misogynist. But so are loads of men in the public eye.

Doubtless, he has helped some people but I think a lot of it is about his self image.