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‘Tricked’ by vegan sausages

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Rhubarbpeony · 10/03/2020 10:32

I had a friend round for dinner last night. It was a last minute plan (she lives in another city and only told me on the day that she was free that evening) so I didn’t make anything fancy. I had in the fridge a packet of Richmond vegan sausages and some potatoes, which I turned into olive oil mash. I’ve been vegan for about ten years - longer than the entire time I have known this friend. We have cooked for each other many times in the past.

As we were finishing eating, my husband got home from a late work event and saw that we had had the sausages. It’s not a brand we have tried before and they’re much cheaper than the kind we usually get, so he asked if they had been nice. I said they were good, and I’d happily have them again.

Friend gets a really odd look on her face and then says to me ‘you didn’t tell me these were vegan sausages.’ I said no, I assumed she would know that anything I cooked or ate would be vegan. She said I was wrong to assume, and that I had tricked her. She said it would be like me coming to dinner at her house and being tricked into eating a meat sausage.

AIBU or are these two things not the same?! For one thing, I definitely don’t feel like I tricked her - she saw me cook the sausages, and if she had asked anything about them I would have told her what was in them. For another, her diet doesn’t preclude her from eating vegan items, but mine does preclude me from eating meat, so IMO it’s a lot worse to give a vegan a meat sausage than it is to give a non-vegan a vegan sausage.

(for info: the sausages don’t contain any soy, and she doesn’t have any food allergies)

OP posts:
EllenOlenska · 10/03/2020 23:12

Batshit. I wonder if you had my sister round OP?
I can't have caffeine, my whole family know this. I do keep some regular tea and coffee when I can but it got packed up with a load of other food I don't use daily when I last moved house so when it came to make brews at the new house at the end of the day, there was only decaff, I was knackered, I made a big tray mugs and my sister finished hers, volunteered to make another and then started kicking off when she saw the box of DECAFF TEA in the kitchen. You'd think the world had ended Hmm I know it's not for everyone but jeez. It cost me half a crispy duck added to her takeaway order for that evening 😂

GabsAlot · 11/03/2020 00:12

Shes batshit if i go round to someones and thneyve cooked i eat it-im not fussy except for marmite-what did she think you were eating? It makes no sense

Thepigeonsarecoming · 11/03/2020 00:18

God this is hilarious, I’m not vegan but I enjoy a varied diet. If you’d ‘tricked’ me into eating them and they were enjoyable I’d just be happy to have found something new to enjoy. I wouldn’t trust eating at her house in the future (although likely you’ll not be invited now) though, in case she thinks it’s appropriate to ‘trick’ you back!

GinAndNightnurse · 11/03/2020 03:15

BennyVegas you can get vegan butter

No you can’t.

You’ve been able to buy vegetable fat spreads and margarines for over seventy years. Only recently have I heard them being referred to as ‘vegan butter’ like they are some new idea. 😂

I use Flora Buttery myself.

All Flora contains palm oil and Flora Butterly and Flora Original do not claim to be 100% dairy free. For that you need Flora Dairy Free.

CarolHasAnotherUTI · 11/03/2020 05:52

Flora Butterly and Flora Original do not claim to be 100% dairy free. For that you need Flora Dairy Free

You are wrong. Flora made all their range dairy free a year ago.

Dozer · 11/03/2020 05:55

Friend was being weird and rude!

CarolHasAnotherUTI · 11/03/2020 05:57

Ooh no, just did some digging!

Although all are registered with the vegan society, the ones that don't say vegan say that that could contain traces of milk due to their supply chain!

Apologies, you are indeed correct.

Charlesthekingcavalier · 11/03/2020 06:08

I’d have known straight away as vegan sausages are disgusting and look strange

Ponoka7 · 11/03/2020 06:16

@GinAndNightnurse, it's quite valid to call nut butter, vegan butter. As plant based milks, including coconut is vegan milk.

Ponoka7 · 11/03/2020 06:21

@Rhubarbpeony, i don't know if you are a member of the vegan fb groups, but if you are you'll know that theres a bit of an anti-vegan agenda going on. There's even been articles in the guardian attacking veganism this week.

It's a backlash about people, suddenly caring about what the Chinese are eating, as well as ourselves and how we are treating animals, in light of the corona virus.

Perhaps she's been exposed to them, does she have trouble thinking things through for herself, at times?

CorianderLord · 11/03/2020 06:23

@charlesking the Richmond ones are actually quite close to meat

CorianderLord · 11/03/2020 06:28

@shinycat I got told I should be euthanised for being vegan and that I 'probably fuck my own brother' because that's the same as vegans eating fake meat (whatever that meant). This was in response to captioning a good photo 'vegan brunch'.

But sure vegans are the problem. I find that some meat eaters are utterly vile to vegans for no bloody reason. 2% of vegans are militant but there's a huge number of people spitting vitriol when they just ask for the bloody vegan menu.

sittingonacornflake · 11/03/2020 06:33

I find it weird that in this day and age people just assume sausages are meat! There are soooooo many vegan alternatives now

Rhubarbpeony · 11/03/2020 06:36

All Flora contains palm oil and Flora Butterly and Flora Original do not claim to be 100% dairy free. For that you need Flora Dairy Free.

The palm oil in flora buttery is from a certified sustainable source. I understand that some people choose to avoid even sustainable palm oil and I respect that choice, but I personally don’t mind it too much.

As for not claiming to be 100% dairy free, the reason they state that is for people with dairy allergies. Flora buttery contains no ingredients which are not plant based, but there is a risk of cross-contamination from other dairy products. That means it’s vegan, but if you are severely lactose intolerant it could cause an allergic reaction. I’m not allergic to dairy, so it’s fine for me to eat Flora Buttery.

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KatharinaRosalie · 11/03/2020 06:37

Would they cater to meat eaters?
What kind of meat eater must eat meat with every meal?

I agree, people are just weird - I sometimes cook all vegan, because why not. As long as you don't tell people, they declare it's delicious. Tell them there was no meat and they all flip out and claim it's not possible to live like this..

Youdreamedmydreamforme · 11/03/2020 06:45

Was she joking? As is trying in a word way to say they were so good they tasted like meat? (Clutching at straws here)

Youdreamedmydreamforme · 11/03/2020 06:45

Weird*

squeekums · 11/03/2020 06:49

Beans on toast, vegetable soup, peanut butter sandwich, avocado bagel, vegetable pasty, veg and beans wrap, hummus and pitta, pasta or gnocchi with tomato sauce, salad, yesterday's leftovers, jacket potatoes.

Don't eat beans on toast,
vege soup? Boring,
peanut butter sandwich has butter too,
avocado? Vile, nuff said,
I choose meat pie over vege pasty,
vege and bean wrap sounds so unappealing, would need sour cream and bacon,
don't eat hummus,
pasta and gnocchi get a butter bath and sauce always has bacon at very least,
salad must have bacon and cheese, mayo,
don't eat leftovers apart from pizza , carbonara or fried chicken,
again, bacon, butter, cheese and sour cream for a jacket potato.
I'd be a shit, very angry vegan. It takes all the stuff I love

I don't get how the friend got tricked, if I knew my mate was vegan, I'd assume they refuse to cater to non vegans, as usual........ I'd also not be accepting a dinner invite, even a last minute one lol. I mean shit, id buy a latte on way just so i get real milk and don't need dinner till I head home

It's like me and SIL both know that if we eat at the in-laws and want real dessert, we BYO or get on way home. They diabetic and don't do sugar. To us that's not dessert lol

CarolHasAnotherUTI · 11/03/2020 06:56

I'd assume they refuse to cater to non vegans, as usual

That's so funny!

There's literally nothing that a vegan could make that wouldn't be suitable for an normal omnivore. Literally nothing.

The fact that you are a fussy omnivore (in that you seem to have this peculiar need for animal products at every meal) doesn't change that.

NeverGotMyPuppy · 11/03/2020 07:02

I also love how people say 'all vegannfoodnis shit' and then explain that they dont like 2 million different food items.

This thread has really shocked me at how militant some people are in being desperate to hate vegans and prove that they need animal products for every meal. It's really very very strange.

BovaryX · 11/03/2020 07:13

This thread has really shocked me at how militant some people are in being desperate to hate vegans and prove that they need animal products for every meal. It's really very very strange

I agree. It's bizarre. And as for all vegan food is boring, have any of these people tried all the spicy, rich recipes from a vegan cookbook? Blimey. Don't understand why people are so opposed to it.

SidsWife · 11/03/2020 07:20

I had a friend who said she was making lasagne, didn’t tell me it was quorn. Quorn makes me violently ill. People should know what they’re eating.

Rhubarbpeony · 11/03/2020 07:26

I had a friend who said she was making lasagne, didn’t tell me it was quorn. Quorn makes me violently ill. People should know what they’re eating.

I agree, and if the friend was an omnivore and was just making the lasagne with quorn because she fancied it, she should have said something. But if she’s vegan or vegetarian you presumably knew it couldn’t be real meat, and so in those circumstances I would expect you to ask what it was. If I had thought for a second my friend believed the sausages were meat I would have told her, but I honestly don’t know how she could have thought so.

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WotchaTalkinBoutWillis · 11/03/2020 07:39

Surely if you're allergic or intolerant to something you should say something before you go?
Your host isn't psychic.

Eckhart · 11/03/2020 07:47

This thread has really shocked me at how militant some people are in being desperate to hate vegans and prove that they need animal products for every meal. It's really very very strange

And me. I'm not even veggie, but I'll try to cater for vegans, and don't insist on meat if I'm eating vegans. Omnivores can eat everything, so I don't really mind. Even if vegan food really was disgusting, who cares? Everyone can usually find something on any menu that they don't like, but they don't hurl hissy hatred at people who order it.