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‘Tricked’ by vegan sausages

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Rhubarbpeony · 10/03/2020 10:32

I had a friend round for dinner last night. It was a last minute plan (she lives in another city and only told me on the day that she was free that evening) so I didn’t make anything fancy. I had in the fridge a packet of Richmond vegan sausages and some potatoes, which I turned into olive oil mash. I’ve been vegan for about ten years - longer than the entire time I have known this friend. We have cooked for each other many times in the past.

As we were finishing eating, my husband got home from a late work event and saw that we had had the sausages. It’s not a brand we have tried before and they’re much cheaper than the kind we usually get, so he asked if they had been nice. I said they were good, and I’d happily have them again.

Friend gets a really odd look on her face and then says to me ‘you didn’t tell me these were vegan sausages.’ I said no, I assumed she would know that anything I cooked or ate would be vegan. She said I was wrong to assume, and that I had tricked her. She said it would be like me coming to dinner at her house and being tricked into eating a meat sausage.

AIBU or are these two things not the same?! For one thing, I definitely don’t feel like I tricked her - she saw me cook the sausages, and if she had asked anything about them I would have told her what was in them. For another, her diet doesn’t preclude her from eating vegan items, but mine does preclude me from eating meat, so IMO it’s a lot worse to give a vegan a meat sausage than it is to give a non-vegan a vegan sausage.

(for info: the sausages don’t contain any soy, and she doesn’t have any food allergies)

OP posts:
SoupDragon · 10/03/2020 19:06

Dairy, especially, is extremely important for a healthy body and bones

We weren't designed to milk cows.

Eckhart · 10/03/2020 19:10

Dairy, especially, is extremely important for a healthy body and bones

Nonsense.

OneHanded · 10/03/2020 19:12

Yeah she’s a cockwomble and certainly no ‘friend’. Not worth your kindness and compassion!

Emmelina · 10/03/2020 19:16

Dairy, especially, is extremely important for a healthy body and bones

There are plenty of other sources of calcium, vegan and otherwise (dairy intolerance here, so have to be creative sometimes!)

greatist.com/health/18-surprising-dairy-free-sources-calcium#1

HavenDilemma · 10/03/2020 19:23

@Bezalelle That's hilarious! Also, quite sad :( Poor man

CarolHasAnotherUTI · 10/03/2020 19:28

To people that think dairy is so necessary - God in earth do adult cows stay so strong and powerful? They can cope on just grass...

Dairy is literally the most unnatural thing in an omnivorous diet. No other animal drinks the milk from another creature.

CarolHasAnotherUTI · 10/03/2020 19:28

That should say 'how on earth'

Rhubarbpeony · 10/03/2020 19:30

@carolhasanotherUTI I also find dairy the strangest, and it’s the most unethical form of food in my opinion. I was a vegetarian for a bit before I went vegan and I remember being surprised when I found out the dairy industry is as cruel / crueller than the meat industry.

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BennyVegas · 10/03/2020 19:34

Beans on toast, vegetable soup, peanut butter sandwich, avocado bagel, vegetable pasty, veg and beans wrap, hummus and pitta, pasta or gnocchi with tomato sauce, salad, yesterday's leftovers, jacket potatoes... just off the top of my head. I do find it quite hard to believe that you never have lunch without animal products!

For many people, most of those meals would include butter.

Shinycat · 10/03/2020 19:46

@TealWater Re your post at 16.39 - Thank you Smile And I agree with you totally too. Vegans (most of them) make up the rules as they go along, and they ALL tailored to their advantage.

As I said, I will be glad when this annoying fad is over.

NeverGotMyPuppy · 10/03/2020 19:51

Why the combatative language? The facts are the facts- a responsible vegan does much less damage than a responsible omnivore

AwdBovril · 10/03/2020 19:59

I bet the olive oil mash was vegan too, wasn't it. Did she throw a wobbly about that as well?

Stinginthetail · 10/03/2020 20:01

I had the Richmond vegan sausages tonight. They're so nice. Your friend is an idiot. Not only because she must have realised your sausages were vegan but clearly it really doesn't matter as long as she enjoyed them. You did absolutely nothing wrong. She should apologise to you.

Rhubarbpeony · 10/03/2020 20:06

@BennyVegas you can get vegan butter. I use flora buttery myself.

patiently awaits accusations of being a shill for Flora from @GinAndNightnurse

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Eckhart · 10/03/2020 20:16

As I said, I will be glad when this annoying fad is over

It's been around longer than you have, and will be around longer than you will.

I can't imagine any reason anybody would be so bitter and unpleasant about it unless they were being constantly victimised by vegans.

NeverGotMyPuppy · 10/03/2020 20:20

@Eckhart I agree - its really really odd.

BennyVegas · 10/03/2020 20:26

you can get vegan butter. I use flora buttery myself.

I know you could easily make those meals vegan by substituting the butter, but someone was exclaiming surprise that people would consume animal products with most meals when it's easily done if you eat butter.

NYCDreaming · 10/03/2020 20:28

For many people, most of those meals would include butter.

Maybe, but I think most people use spread now don't they? Or if not, it' a very easy substitute. I like the Pure sunflower spread myself.

Rhubarbpeony · 10/03/2020 20:34

but someone was exclaiming surprise that people would consume animal products with most meals when it's easily done if you eat butter.

But they were responding to someone who said it’s very hard to eat a meal which doesn’t contain animal products unless you only eat fruit for lunch. The reality is that it’s easy with some pretty minor adjustments.

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deydododatdodontdeydo · 10/03/2020 20:35

As I said, I will be glad when this annoying fad is over.

How unpleasant.
Are you normally annoyed by things that don't affect youo whatsoever?

exexpat · 10/03/2020 20:42

YADNBU and she sounds like one of those people who are outraged when they discover that some perfectly normal food has been classified as halal (because it doesn't contain anything non-halal and never has) and demand proper, British, Christian non-halal cornflakes etc (not sure how you would achieve that - maybe with added bacon bits?).

NYCDreaming · 10/03/2020 20:43

Yes, I was responding to @TealWater who said

But unless you're eating only fruit for lunch, say, it is extremely difficult to have a meal that doesn't have any animal products in it, whatsoever.

So I listed some of my recent lunches to give her some ideas about simple non-fussy lunches which don't need to include animal products.

Ontheboardwalk · 10/03/2020 20:43

Maybe she was worried about the nasty aftertaste she'll be getting for hours after eating them.

I've tried and wanted to like the Richmond vegan but they weren’t good.

To be fair the texture, although clearly not meat, wasn’t that bad. The nasty artificial aftertaste was not good

ByeMF · 10/03/2020 21:10

She sounds odd. If anyone cooked me a meal I'd be really grateful. I eat meat but I also eat meat free. I really don't understand why she thinks it's a big deal.

Ignores vegan vs omnivore debate completely. Each to their own

ALongHardWinter · 10/03/2020 21:15

How odd! So she never eats any vegetable based food?!

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