AIBU about transgender person taking legal action against NHS for allowing her to transition? [[title edited by MNHQ on OP's behalf]]

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A 23 year old is taking legal action against the NHS for giving her treatment to transition to male as a teenager. She has since decided to live as a female and is taking legal action against the NHS as they should have 'challenged her' more when she wanted to transition rather than giving her the treatment.

The NHS can't do right for doing wrong here. Cash strapped to the point of collapse and being sued for giving someone the treatment they asked for. I despair.

AIBU or is this absolutely ludicrous?

www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-51676020
from MNHQ - this title and OP originally said the person concerned was suing the NHS. They are in fact just taking legal action. The OP has asked us to make this clear but you may find some of the early posts reflect the words in the original title

Thumbwitches — I would be surprised. See also drag queens with highly sexualised profiles and presentation in schools, etc, and people defending this.

Sorry, I mean WOULDNT be surprised.

"act as though the policy is already law, persuade large institutions that it Will Definitely Be Law and get them to change ahead of the game - something that the trans rights lobby have managed to an incredible level!"
They really have havent they? They've done it all very cleverly and very slyly.

I actually think the girls are the luckier ones...... At least they're semi reversible.

Imagine making the decision as a child or very young to have ones penis chopped off. That's it, there's no going back and changing your mind when you mature.

It's fucked up. 😳😳😳

but they were adamant that is what they wanted,

All teenagers are adamant. It’s the professionals job to DIAGNOSE, to tell the difference between a confused, adamant teen and a patient who would benefit from transition. They failed. And tons of other girls are also being failed.

But the institutions that have fallen for this are guilty of maladministration and dereliction of duty on a massive Scale, and should be held accountable for this.

How is getting your boobs chopped off reversible? How can they ever then breastfeed successfully, for example? And I think they do a lot of damage down below, too. To the clitoris at least. If not the womb etc, too.

Good, I hope she wins. Hopefully this will stop other children being offered these rediculous treatments. If they want to transition, they should wait until they are a grown adult!

I don't have the vote option but I'm very pleased that this young woman is seeking a judicial review.
As pp have said First do no harm. These children are being actively harmed and sometimes being mutilated.
I don't understand why there is a rush to affirm the absolute lie that a child or anybody can change sex.
I do have a theory about why children are being prescribed drugs that will stop their puberty though.

No yanbu and this sort of treatment should be stopped.

I'm sure she wasn't the only girl going through difficult teenage years and feeling uncomfortable in her body.

It would appear to be a contentious subject with opinions going both for and against. Would those who keep saying that the NHS should be sued keep in mind that its the taxpayer who will stand the brunt of this.

Children should not receive irreversible therapy. Full stop. They should receive talk therapy, and plenty of it, of course (to help them clarify what's going on (which in many cases I suspect has little to do with being transgender) and/or to help them until they are able to transition - if they still wish to transition - when they are of age).

Mermaids should be sued as facilitators of abuse, in my view.

They’ve lobbied for this. They’ve stood between mentally unwell adolescents and appropriate psychological help.

And they know it. When the suing does begin, I Hope Mermaids are the target, not the NHS.

NHS failed to stand up to trans lobby groups such as Mermaids.
NHS GIDs children's service has failed in its Safeguarding responsibilities. The service has always been based on its founder's belief that children have an 'innate' gender identity & thus legitimise medicalising children who believe they are/should be the opposite sex.

November 2018
(extract)
"The GIDS was founded in 1989 and is one of the longest standing services for gender diverse children and young people in the world. Domenico Di Ceglie, who founded the service, wrote a set of therapeutic aims which we still abide by today. This includes the unconditional acceptance and respect for young people’s gender identity. We do not therefore take a view regarding the outcome of an individual’s gender identity development: rather, our focus is to provide a space for exploration of gender, to ameliorate any negative impacts on general development and to work with young people to think through all the options open to them. These principles remain central to the delivery of the service."

tavistockandportman.nhs.uk/about-us/news/stories/our-gender-identity-development-service/

In a world where we are terrible person if we pass judgement, the trans right's lobby played a blinder.
I watched a documentary filmed in Thailand 15 years ago, boys wearing skirts to school age 5. I think many transitioned for an easier life, then there was the Elsa dress phase for the boys, which really wasn't any harm, until it was debated deeply. There was thread after thread on gender based toys and clothing, to banish gender based sections of stores, parents doing everything to avoid buying gender specific.
The stable door was opened wide the horse bolted.

YABU.

This is a very important issue affecting a lot of young people, especially young females.

I hate to see resources drained from the NHS but this is an issue which needs attention. If charities like Mermaids have encouraged children down this route then I hope they will also be questioned about their 'work'.

I hope she wins.

NHS should be sued keep in mind that its the taxpayer who will stand the brunt of this.

SHE ISN’T SUING!

This is good news. The NHS shouldn’t be perpetuating the myth that people can change sex but supporting people to live happy lives with the sex they are born, and will die as.

Mermaids and stonewall

Also there are some very wealthy transpersons, eg
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jennifer_Pritzker

I wish I didn’t know that parents have no say in this.

Parents are ostracized by schools & CAMHS for not going along with affirmation. My son was seen by a counsellor at school 5 times for 20 minutes each time before she suggested I take him to a private clinic to be prescribed hormones as a 16 year old.

The report says "taking legal action against an NHS gender clinic", DuLANGMondeFOREVER is that different from suing?

Anyway, whatever challenge she is making in the long run this may well help the NHS to provide better care in the future for other young people.

Would those who keep saying that the NHS should be sued keep in mind that its the taxpayer who will stand the brunt of this.

Many people have sought to hold this small department in the NHS to account.
Senior medical professionals whistle-blew Safeguarding & Duty of Care failures over a year ago.
There was no open serious review of its practices.
MPs have remained ineffectual.

When an NHS department is believed to be failing to Safeguard children & there is a growing body of evidence, it must be scrutinised.

Whistle-blowers should not be encouraged to keep silent because of possible effects to the service if/when its found to be negligent.

And I agree parents have very little say, if any say at all.

There are teenage anorexics who are adamant they are overweight and that their eating and exercise regimes are healthy.

If someone who is still a child is following a course that risks lifelong physical, psychological, social and sexual consequences surely it is for the professionals around them to ensure that no irreversible step is taken until they are sure all implications are understood.

Would those who keep saying that the NHS should be sued

Oh. Who has said that then?