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Six year old girl arrested in Florida

218 replies

Userwhatevernumber · 26/02/2020 21:44

Sorry if there is already a thread about this, I couldn’t find one.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-us-canada-51638871/six-year-old-girl-arrested-at-florida-school

AIBU to think this is totally unacceptable and the US police are heartless and cruel?

It’s things like this, that put me off ever living in America 😢😡

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Daftodil · 27/02/2020 13:25

I understood that in the beginning the assistant principal wanted to press charges as the child kicked her and also punched her arms repeatedly.
Apparently not @KatherineJaneway. As I read it, it sounds like she was kicking out rather than kicking at a person iyswim. She (Kaia) did hit her (assistant principal) with her hands, and the assistant principal then held her by the forearms to stop this. The assistant principal denied wanting to press charges.

This from the CNN article linked in the earlier post:

While the police report says the assistant principal wanted to press charges and would testify in court, the statement the assistant principal gave to police at the time and obtained by CNN does not show an initial by the box: "I will testify in court and prosecute criminally."

In a statement issued by Lucious and Emma Nixon Academy on September 24, 2019, Kaia's school wrote, "Never did anyone within our organization request or direct the School Resource Officer to arrest this student."

Daftodil · 27/02/2020 13:31

I've also seen that the resource officer was previously arrested himself for beating his (7yo) son. How he had a role in a school setting in the first place is very troubling and raises a lot of questions in itself. Kaia was the second child he had arrested that day! The other was 7yo. How many other children had he terrorized in his career?

m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=683838478772726&id=106109400756028

Tellmetruth4 · 27/02/2020 13:56

So they’ve already criminalised a child at 6 years old. The trauma she suffered will have long term repercussions for her and possibly her community. Fucking disgusting. Whoever called the police should also lose their job and be barred from working with children.

recrudescence · 27/02/2020 14:00

This is when you realise that Americans are really not like us.

mantarays · 27/02/2020 14:05

How come the USA is the only country in the world that calls police into schools to deal with problems in the classroom? What do you think teachers or schools do right in other countries?

I didn’t know the USA was the only country to do that.

Tellmetruth4 · 27/02/2020 14:05

I can’t believe this is how they deal with a small child with additional needs. Unbelievable.

Lifeisgenerallyfun · 27/02/2020 14:08

Wtf, the guy with the body camera has been dismissed. Quite frankly I would question the motives of any grown man that thinks it’s appropriate to tie up a seven year old girl and treat her like a piece of game he’s shot adding up his tally like a game hunter. He seems proud of his abuse of kids, getting an even younger one than his record.

What about the guy who drove off seemingly on his own with a tied up 6 year old child. Where’s the safe guarding.

I hope the family take the Orlando police department to the fucking cleaners.

What the film shows is child abuse pure and simple in my view!

JudyCoolibar · 27/02/2020 15:05

Who on earth called the police? Why couldn't the teacher deal with any bad behaviour in class?? What a bonkers story.

It was the resource officer who called the police. It looks as if he was in effect a police officer attached to the school.

Whoever called the police should also lose their job and be barred from working with children.

The person who called has already lost his job. No idea whether anything has been done about his ability to work with children.

Pomegranatepompom · 27/02/2020 15:20

What could be done to help this child and the others? I want to do something constructive, not sure what would be effective, if anything.

Daftodil · 27/02/2020 15:37

What could be done to help this child and the others? I want to do something constructive, not sure what would be effective, if anything.

@Pomegranatepompom, there is a GoFundMe page set up to pay for private schooling and therapy for Kaia (all state schools have a uniformed officer onsite, and a therapist has recommended attending a police-feee environment would be in her best interests, which is only possible if attending a private school).

www.gofundme.com/f/kaia-rolle-6-year-old-arrested-in-orlando-fund?pc=fb_co_campmgmtbnr_m&rcid=r01-157022389848-d9c646cf95ce4a27

There is also a change.org petition to implement minimum age restrictions on arrests, but I think you may have to be based in Florida/The US to sign.

www.change.org/p/ron-desantis-minimum-age-for-delinquency-adjudication?recruiter=874397984

Thedogscollar · 27/02/2020 16:31

Utterly heartbreaking and appalling as are some of the comments on this thread condoning the treatment of this very young and traumatised child.
*10frozenfingers You may have thought you were good at your job but the comments/views given it displays that you infact had no REAL comprehension of what your job actually required.

Pomegranatepompom · 27/02/2020 16:50

@daffodil thank you so much. I will share that page.

KatherineJaneway · 27/02/2020 19:37

@Daftodil

So this is what I had read, so you know where my comments originate:

Turner wrote in Kaia's arrest report that Beverly Stoute, whom he identified as an assistant principal, was the victim in the case and she wanted to press charges because Kaia kicked her on the legs and punched her arms several times.

School officials later said in a statement neither Stoute or anyone else from the school said they wanted to press charges.

Wannabangbang · 27/02/2020 19:40

Wtaf!! Madness poor baby

TheyDoDoThat · 27/02/2020 22:18

Imagine that happening in the UK ? 6 year old child arrested and placed on a psych ward without her parents being told ? The parents would sue until there was nothing left to sue, the school would probably close, people would lose jobs left right and centre

The UK isn't perfect by any stretch but I'm glad that shit wouldnt fly here

Don’t be so sure with Boris Tump in charge.

DeeCeeCherry · 27/02/2020 22:28

I saw the headline and thought immediately - it’ll be a black kid. And it was

Yep.

Thats the reality of black life in the USA so I wonder why anyone is surprised, actually. Its nothing new. I recall the story of a 12 year old black girl being manhandled by a policeman too - she was at a friends' pool party, wearing a bikini. As slim and petite as she was, the policeman threw her to the floor roughed her up had his hands all over her.

But there have been several instances over the years of police being called to arrest young black children in USA anyway so as said, nothing new..

You couldn't pay me to live there. I didn't find USA appealing at all

Mummyshark2019 · 27/02/2020 22:33

Only in America eh. Country has gone to shit. I wouldn't live there for all the money in the world. Poor child.

Butchyrestingface · 28/02/2020 04:01

The age is 10 in the UK AND .... kids aren't handcuffed

In Australia and the UK, a child has to be 10 to be arrested

In parts of the UK the age of criminal responsibility is 10. In other parts, it is 8.

I too thought the little girl would be black. It looked like the arresting officer was black too, and mighty proud at beating his previous record for arresting people still cutting their milk teeth.

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