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Calling people in laws when not married

240 replies

rosie991 · 24/02/2020 16:15

Am I the only one who finds this odd?

I keep coming across people in relationships (but not married) who refer to their partners parents, siblings etc as 'mother in law', father in law, sister in law etc.

Surely the meaning of 'in law' mean you are married to said person 'in law?'

Not sure why it bothers me, just confuses me when someone says thisBiscuit

OP posts:
JellyNo15 · 24/02/2020 19:00

I refer to my DS1's partner (and mother of my DGD) as DIL because I feel she is more than a girlfriend and partner is not clear as could mean he is in a same sex relationships (which would be fine) but he isn't. DS2 has a girlfriend but they do not live together yet but if it when they do I will probably refer to her as DIL too

TabbyMumz · 24/02/2020 19:09

One phrase that I dont get is when people say "I'm as good as married".....I just think "but your not?!

TheOrigBrave · 24/02/2020 19:12

I am close to my ex's parents I usually just call them by their first names but sometimes it's useful to explain eg to FIL's caters, that I am like family.

He's no longer my FIL but there isn't another word.

LittleYorkshireLass · 24/02/2020 19:15

@angelaEhen

I was with my dh 14 years before we married had a house and two kids, it was just easier to call him my husband and I think if I called him my boyfriend it would feel a little childish.

Why? Confused I think calling your boyfriend (who you aren't married to) your 'husband' is a bit more 'childish' than just saying he's your boyfriend.

@NeedCoffeeNowRightNow

mother in law = 3 words
partner's mother = 2 words

Someone please explain why one of these is more difficult.

This. ^

It's not any more difficult to say partner's mother at ALL, and as a few people have said, it does smack of wanting to be married (if you call them your in-laws when you're not married!)

I agree, it is weird. Being married does change many small things - nothing smug about. If you cannot get up to pop into the registry office for what could be a 10 minute ceremony, don't call yourself married.

Exactly this. And people who call us married folk 'smug-marrieds,' are just projecting, and they are also coming across as insecure and bitter.

@saraclara

"We're off to the in-laws" and then "We're off to my partner's parents" .. which one trips off the tongue better.

They are both just as easy to say. But if you are not married, then why the hell are you calling your partner's parents your IN-LAWS? Because they're not.

If I work for Channel 4 as an assistant scriptwriter, should I say I work for Greggs because it's a bit easier to say.?' Wink

Daft. And as I say, it definitely smacks of people wanting to be married. (calling your partner's parents your 'in-laws...')

And a few people have said people who are married act like they're superior. Maybe they do feel that, and maybe they don't, but you cannot deny that their relationship is more valid than those who are un-married........ Whether the 'un-marrieds' like it or not.

@TabbyMumz

One phrase that I don't get is when people say "I'm as good as married".....I just think "but your not?! Exactly... they're a bit deluded aren't they?!

BustPipes · 24/02/2020 19:15

Me and DP are getting a civil partnership later this year. I will definitely not be 'as good as married' and he will not be my husband and I will not be his wife.

The in-laws are the in-laws, and will remain in laws (unless they seriously piss me off, in which situation they will become 'that lot'). There will continue to be no legal relationship between us - in the same way there is no legal relationship between a married person and the parents of their spouse.

Cohle · 24/02/2020 19:25

And a few people have said people who are married act like they're superior. Maybe they do feel that, and maybe they don't, but you cannot deny that their relationship is more valid than those who are un-married........

Your entire post is very unpleasant.

What exactly do you mean by "more valid" though? Do you think unmarried couples love each other less, are less committed to each other, don't have kids etc etc?

I'm married by the way so I'm not "insecure and bitter", I just think how other people chose to live their lives is rarely my business.

Fifthtimelucky · 24/02/2020 19:28

I've been married over 25 years and I don't think I've referred to my in laws as my in laws.

If talking about them I say 'John's parents' or John's mother' (his father is now dead) or 'Mary'.

LittleYorkshireLass · 24/02/2020 19:33

@Cohle

By more valid I mean 'more valid.' HTH.

ItsAllTheDramaMickIJustLoveIt · 24/02/2020 19:33

I’ve never been married but my ex’s parents were in my eyes and theirs (at the time at least) my in-laws. Fortunately they’re not anymore. I live with my current partner and count his lovely mum and dad as my in-laws and they refer to me as their daughter in law and my kids as their grandchildren/step grandchildren.

So no, I don’t find it odd Grin

However, I know a few people (women that is) who on their SM use their partners surname instead of their own- so Jane Jones instead of actual name Jane Smith- despite not being married and while I don’t find it “odd” I assume they want marriage and their partner doesn’t.

LittleYorkshireLass · 24/02/2020 19:34

@Cohle

Your entire post is very unpleasant

Translation - 'you have said lots of things I don't like and don't agree with.'

Cohle · 24/02/2020 19:39

How did you feel about gay couples before civil partnerships were introduced Little? Or gay couples in countries where gay marriage still isn't recognised?

Do you think your relationship is "more valid" than theirs?

LadyMonicaBaddingham · 24/02/2020 19:42

It's just easy shorthand. My DC refer to my BFs (she is their godmother and has the honorary title of Aunty) DC as their cousins. I couldn't find it in myself to give a fuck about this.

LittleYorkshireLass · 24/02/2020 19:47

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SunshineCake · 24/02/2020 19:49

I call my PIL mum and dad as I never had parents and really wanted some Sad. No one minds.

Cohle · 24/02/2020 19:54

Yes I do.

Your express homophobia is abhorrent and I've reported your posts. HTH.

TabbyMumz · 24/02/2020 19:55

Are you sure sunshine? My sil thinks noone minds, but everyone hates it. The inlaws arent her Mum. They have 3 children who have the right to call them Mum, she doesnt.

ShirleyPhallus · 24/02/2020 20:00

Yes I do.

Jesus Christ. That’s horrible.

LittleYorkshireLass · 24/02/2020 20:01

@Cohle

You OK Hun?

LittleYorkshireLass · 24/02/2020 20:02

@Cohle You do NOT like people having different opinions to you do you?

HTH

Longwhiskers14 · 24/02/2020 20:03

LittleYorkshireLass I'm not married but I've been with my partner for 15 years, so a lot longer than many marriages last if the MN Relationship board is anything to go by. Yet according to you, my relationship doesn't count? To quote a PP, you think unmarried couples love each other less, are less committed to each other, don't have kids etc etc?

SunshineCake · 24/02/2020 20:04

Yes, Tabby. The family aren't arseholes. They know I have no parents and never did. They see me as family. Fucks sake.

Andahelterskelterroundmylittle · 24/02/2020 20:05

Oh ffs . Well done you on the marriage certificate. Only you are allowed to call people In LawsHmm

Longwhiskers14 · 24/02/2020 20:06

SunshineCake My dad called his in-laws Mum and Dad because like you he didn't have parents of his own. They welcomed it and my mum's brothers didn't mind a jot because they were a loving, inclusive family. It's nice your in-laws are the same.

AryaStarkWolf · 24/02/2020 20:07

@LittleYorkshireLass I'm not bitter or projecting, I am married 😆

Cohle · 24/02/2020 20:07

You do NOT like people having different opinions to you do you?

Not when those opinions are homophobic.

Maybe I'm sheltered but I haven't come across someone being so openly homophobic in decades. It's vile.

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