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AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

To feel really rejected?

135 replies

StartingAgain33 · 19/02/2020 13:04

Was seeing someone for 3.5 months. Was progressing really nicely - we were meeting eachother's friends, were exclusive, had just started using boyfriend / girlfriend label - felt safe and happy together, and like feelings were developing at a good pace (although not head over heels). He'd also suggested I meet his dad when he was visiting London.

He has been travelling a lot and had a lot of personal disruption and stress in this time, meaning he has been away for about a month of that and also quite distracted towards the end with said disruption which he has found extremely stressful (he is now going on antidepressants for this). Despite this, it felt like we had established a relatively stable, solid thing (although maybe less connection in the last month due to outside stress).

Then he was told he needed to move back to New York (where he is from) by his job (I'm based in London). He tried his very best to stay - argued with his bosses for weeks and was threatened with being fired etc. His original plan was to settle here and he had been here for two years - but he had no choice (giving up his job would have been stupid - he literally couldn't do better than the one he has, especially not in the UK).

We both agreed it was probably best to break it off rather than go long distance, as we hadn't had a chance to establish enough of a foundation and the only way to be physically together again would be for me to move to New York. I have had a really tough few years and part of me wouldn't mind a fresh start, which I did sort of hint at, but he said he felt that would be lot of pressure on a young relationship and he wouldn't want me to uproot my life.

He also felt that the long distance stuff in between now moving there would not go well - he said he has really suffered from not putting an effort in making friends and establishing himself in London, which has made him very depressed and isolated - and he doesn't want to make that mistake again. He feels that if we were still together his mind would always be in London and he would get anxious and sad (he does have this tendancy), and he would ruin both our relationship and not make a success of his time in New York, which he needs to live in long term now. He also has a huge work project over the next six months which is probably going to mean he's intensely busy - even on weekends.

At the same time though, I feel really sad he doesn't want to try. If he was that into me, I think he would, no? He disagrees and says that he is really into me, that he would have loved to continue this and would have were he in London, and that this decision has nothing to do with his feelings for me or how he saw us developing. He feels we should appreciate what we've had, which has been really good and special, and rare - he hasn't had a girlfriend in quite a long time - but that I should not take this personally at all.

We had a strained conversation yesterday where I was basically trying to get him to admit he just isn't that into me and he refused to and said that the not being able to do long distance is something that is separate to us, and means nothing about how much he values us. He feels like I have a different way of seeing this - which is that feelings are priority and if you want to make something happen it will work - but that he is more practically minded and feels that feelings are only part of an equation.

He feels sad that I'm questioning the validity of our relationship so far because of this, and doesn't want me to think that is wasn't something special.

I guess that he also doesn't want to waste our time on a difficult situation as he knows I want to have kids soon as does he.

Do you think I'm being unreasonable to feel so rejected? I actually feel kind of physically sick. This was the first nice person / relationship I've had in a while, and he made me feel very safe.

But I also think I might be doing something quite self destructive mentally in not believing him, because it probably does make sense practically to end it?

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dodgeballchamp · 19/02/2020 17:31

OP I used to be like you and think emotions conquered all and if you wanted it to work you’d do anything, ANYTHING, to make it happen. Time and experience (including a short lived transatlantic LDR) taught me this is naive and idealistic. Despite being a very emotionally-led and impulsive person I would without a doubt reign myself in and do exactly what he’s doing in this situation. As others have said you can’t just turn up in New York and start living there, it can take years to get the requisite paperwork if you don’t have a job to sponsor you. If you tried to get married after 3 months you’d probably be suspected of immigration fraud. I don’t think it means he’s not into you, he’s just being realistic

SunshineCake · 19/02/2020 17:35

While you have had some unkind comments, @StartingAgain33 you have also dished one out to @Wineislifex which I feel is sneery, unkind and certainly unnecessary.

StartingAgain33 · 19/02/2020 17:40

@sunshinecake @wineislifeex If my questions came across like that, it was not intended. I'm genuinely curious and have also asked others more about their experiences when they've said similar things.

Each to their own - if it works for them it works! I'm genuinely curious about this kind of mindset because I think part of me finds the idea very romantic which is exactly what I'm working out in this thread.

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Thinkingabout1t · 19/02/2020 17:41

OP, I do feel for you. Years ago, I had a long-term, long-distance relationship that slowly broke both his heart and mine. We should either have lived together or ended it much sooner.

If you were at a different stage in your life, say in your early 20s, I'd think it might be worth giving New York a try. But you both want kids soon, so it would be foolish to uproot yourself right now.

You are both being sensible. And no, you're not being unreasonable for feeling rejected, even though you know he's not rejecting you! You've suffered a loss and it's natural to grieve.

I hope you both soon find someone (as I eventually did) who will be the right person at the right time.

StartingAgain33 · 19/02/2020 17:46

@Eckhart You're right. He has treated me decently all the way through and I think this is another example of that actually. He is also going to be struggling personally for a while I think because of recent stress and I guess knows that he cant be a good boyfriend from a distance.

I think I need to just realise this isnt about me, and is for the best. It's sad as neither of us chose it, but maybe wiser to live with 'what might have been' rather than try to retrospectively recast the relationship or his feelings as not enough or not right.

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StartingAgain33 · 19/02/2020 17:50

@dodgeballchamp yes I think you're right. I WANTED this to be that romantic situation where we both have no choice but to uproot our lives and where it all works out, even though in my heart of hearts I maybe knew this was not a very good idea. So I'm sad about that, and for some reason feeling very rejected, even though I dont think I need to be.

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Casino218 · 19/02/2020 17:57

He's not that into you. Sorry. Move on.

StartingAgain33 · 19/02/2020 17:58

@Thinkingabout1t that's a good point. I guess I can feel rejected even when I'm not, because its a loss.

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crimsonlake · 19/02/2020 18:09

He has told you his returning to the US will not involve you and it is best if the relationship does not continue, you need to listen to him.
I understand how you feel but all the ' should I ' and 'What if's ' in the world will not change things.
There is no point in trying to analyse how strong his feelings were or indeed were not during the short time you were actually together, the fact is he is returning without you.
Try your best to be happy for him and wish him well, you never know he might miss you and invite you for a holiday. In the meantime put it behind you, move on and have fun.

ChewChewIsMySpiritAnimal · 19/02/2020 20:22

He clearly doesn't want you to go with him and he's trying to let you down gently. You hardly know him. He hardly knows you. Don't guilt trip him or force him to say you don't mean enough to him. He's already struggling and he's made the best choice for him. I think you sound really unfair and needy tbh. Why is your self esteem so wrapped up in whether this guy wants to be with you or not?

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