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To feel really rejected?

135 replies

StartingAgain33 · 19/02/2020 13:04

Was seeing someone for 3.5 months. Was progressing really nicely - we were meeting eachother's friends, were exclusive, had just started using boyfriend / girlfriend label - felt safe and happy together, and like feelings were developing at a good pace (although not head over heels). He'd also suggested I meet his dad when he was visiting London.

He has been travelling a lot and had a lot of personal disruption and stress in this time, meaning he has been away for about a month of that and also quite distracted towards the end with said disruption which he has found extremely stressful (he is now going on antidepressants for this). Despite this, it felt like we had established a relatively stable, solid thing (although maybe less connection in the last month due to outside stress).

Then he was told he needed to move back to New York (where he is from) by his job (I'm based in London). He tried his very best to stay - argued with his bosses for weeks and was threatened with being fired etc. His original plan was to settle here and he had been here for two years - but he had no choice (giving up his job would have been stupid - he literally couldn't do better than the one he has, especially not in the UK).

We both agreed it was probably best to break it off rather than go long distance, as we hadn't had a chance to establish enough of a foundation and the only way to be physically together again would be for me to move to New York. I have had a really tough few years and part of me wouldn't mind a fresh start, which I did sort of hint at, but he said he felt that would be lot of pressure on a young relationship and he wouldn't want me to uproot my life.

He also felt that the long distance stuff in between now moving there would not go well - he said he has really suffered from not putting an effort in making friends and establishing himself in London, which has made him very depressed and isolated - and he doesn't want to make that mistake again. He feels that if we were still together his mind would always be in London and he would get anxious and sad (he does have this tendancy), and he would ruin both our relationship and not make a success of his time in New York, which he needs to live in long term now. He also has a huge work project over the next six months which is probably going to mean he's intensely busy - even on weekends.

At the same time though, I feel really sad he doesn't want to try. If he was that into me, I think he would, no? He disagrees and says that he is really into me, that he would have loved to continue this and would have were he in London, and that this decision has nothing to do with his feelings for me or how he saw us developing. He feels we should appreciate what we've had, which has been really good and special, and rare - he hasn't had a girlfriend in quite a long time - but that I should not take this personally at all.

We had a strained conversation yesterday where I was basically trying to get him to admit he just isn't that into me and he refused to and said that the not being able to do long distance is something that is separate to us, and means nothing about how much he values us. He feels like I have a different way of seeing this - which is that feelings are priority and if you want to make something happen it will work - but that he is more practically minded and feels that feelings are only part of an equation.

He feels sad that I'm questioning the validity of our relationship so far because of this, and doesn't want me to think that is wasn't something special.

I guess that he also doesn't want to waste our time on a difficult situation as he knows I want to have kids soon as does he.

Do you think I'm being unreasonable to feel so rejected? I actually feel kind of physically sick. This was the first nice person / relationship I've had in a while, and he made me feel very safe.

But I also think I might be doing something quite self destructive mentally in not believing him, because it probably does make sense practically to end it?

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DifficultPifcultLemonDifficult · 19/02/2020 14:53

Three months is not plenty to change your whole life/career/plans over Hmm

74NewStreet · 19/02/2020 14:54

You barely know each other, and he’s not keen enough to stay.
What sort of a job does he have that he “literally” couldn’t get a better one (and allows him to work in London for two years and then summons him back to New York on a whim?)
If he wanted to remain here (and with you), he would.

Justwondered12 · 19/02/2020 14:56

Op you will get people in two camps here . The 3 months is totally not long enough and the ‘he’s Just not that into you’ camp .
The latter are likely to just be lucky if things worked out and they knew straight away. 3 months is no where near long enough imo . You may end up not even liking him if you moved the text.

StartingAgain33 · 19/02/2020 14:57

@74NewStreet, I don't want to share this info as it's in the public eye. But believe me, he couldn't do it here with another company. He needs to stay with this one. And they can summon him there. He has just spent weeks trying to make this not happen. I fully believe this and have seen the proof.

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19lottie82 · 19/02/2020 14:58

Even if he wanted it too, a “fresh start” in New York is unlikely to be possible. You need a visa , which you are unlikely to get without a job, that you can’t get without a visa. My friend married an American and he was stuck in the UK for a year before he finally got his green card based on marriage.

But re your OP, you’ve only been with this guy 3.5 months! It’s crazy to expect him to uproot his life you you and vice verse.

Nowayorhighway · 19/02/2020 14:59

Some couples move in together or get engaged or even pregnant after three months and it works out but I don’t think that is by any means the norm. Usually couples who rush head first into things get burned and I suspect that would’ve happened if you’d moved to NY for him.

It’s not like moving to a different city within the UK, it’s a whole new country and lifestyle. You could have moved there and found you didn’t actually like him all that much, then what?

StartingAgain33 · 19/02/2020 14:59

Hi @justwondered12, yeah I guess this just shows there are different attitudes to relationships - those who believe it's 'meant to be' and those who believe you build something over time and that it takes a while. I'm not sure what one I'm in, hence asking others! I feel like boyfriend is in the second camp, so maybe i shouldn't feel rejected?

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Beautiful3 · 19/02/2020 15:00

It was only a couple of months, it wasnt meant to be. Just move on, plenty more fish in the sea.

StartingAgain33 · 19/02/2020 15:01

I guess I'm a bit worried that I'm taking this personally out of low self esteem, when the reality is this is just not a workable solution anyway!

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19lottie82 · 19/02/2020 15:01

PS while I do agree with the “when you know you know” thing, it isn’t always the case. Occasionally relationships happen like this but more often than not they need a lot of work!

user1471449295 · 19/02/2020 15:02

I think his reasons make sense. Sorry Flowers

Bartlet · 19/02/2020 15:02

Hindsight is 20:20.

All these people saying that they knew he was the one only think that because it happened to work out for them. This is due to many factors both in and out of their control.

There are lots of other people where it didn’t work out and distance, jobs, immigration factors are all pretty big.

It’s just that the “our love is super special and so he would have moved across the world for me cos I’m soooo worth it” people have more to brag about.

Crumpets124 · 19/02/2020 15:03

A lot of the time it’s black and white (he’s not that into me) other times it isn’t. I had to break up with my first boyfriend after a year as his visa expired and he was moving back to a strict Muslim country and said there was no way I could move there (blonde pale). I knew he was into me so it wasn’t that it was circumstances. I was devastated but we parted amicably and I met my husband two years later and now see that my husband was my ‘meant to be’. The other guy and I stayed in contact and are still friends on social media etc. It all worked out for the best.

So I think you’re over thinking it. He likes you. Maybe if it was a year and it’s NY you would’ve moved over. As it stands you’re only together a little while and not long enough to make the decision to move together. He is being sensible. I would let him go. Hopefully you meet the one. Or maybe in a few years he moves back and he is the one.

You need to just take it one step at a time. Let him go with no expectations. Move on with your life and take it from there. Don’t be over thinking it.

StartingAgain33 · 19/02/2020 15:05

Lol @bartlet, as I get older I increasingly feel like that's the case. I think people get a kick out of it and make up this story which is just post rationalisation, the older and more experienced I get with relationships / observing others. It feels kind of boast-y, doesn't it? And like 'my love is better than yours'.

I also think it's a great way to justify rash actions - which may or may not work out.

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inwood · 19/02/2020 15:06

This all sounds too hard, it should be easy at this stage.

StartingAgain33 · 19/02/2020 15:06

Also I'm obviously looking for comfort here. I think some people get a kick out of saying he's not that into you!

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suchagoofball · 19/02/2020 15:10

It would be crazy to uproot your life for a boyfriend of 14 weeks.

This.

Plus you seem to not be factoring in the fact you can't just move to America, you need to have a visa and all the paperwork in place and it's not that easy to do.

I (in the UK) dated someone in the US for a few months and it was not fun at all so I don't think he was being U. LDRs are hard enough when you're an established couple but for someone you've hardly been in a relationship for any length of time with, it's going to be more stress and pressure than it's worth.

OhCaptain · 19/02/2020 15:10

Oh you poor thing!

I don't think it's necessarily true that he's just not that into you! But it does sound as though he's being more pragmatic about it all, to be honest.

His reasoning is logical and sound and while that's not exactly romantic, it is realistic!

I don't think it negates the relationship you were building. It's just bad timing and neither of you are head over heels so anything other than just splitting amicably seems a bit bad.

But of course you're hurt and sad. Just don't feel like it's you. It's circumstances! Flowers

Bartlet · 19/02/2020 15:10

Indeed. How do they know they wouldn’t have met someone much more suitable a month later if they’d been single.

It is braggy and a bit cruel to say that the reason it hasn’t worked out is because he’s not that in to you. He may just be a sensible realistic guy who’s trying to save you a lot of anguish and heartache later down the line.

angieloumc · 19/02/2020 15:12

Why would you need to see 'proof'?
You shouldn't be this unhappy 3 months in. Just let him go, there will be someone else for you in the future.

StartingAgain33 · 19/02/2020 15:12

Thanks @Bartlet - yeah I agree it's a bit cruel. I know it's cruel to myself to think like this too, I just can't help doing it!

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Justwondered12 · 19/02/2020 15:14

@StartingAgain33

I don’t believe in the blanket ‘he’s just not that into you’ . People and situations are too complex . I met a guy and thought he was amazing , he was hinting at moving to another country ( with me ) . He turned out to be an absolute nut case. You current man may just be practical. I don’t believe love conquers all, I really don’t . Don’t feel rejected , see it as it was nice while it lasted.

ShyTown · 19/02/2020 15:17

I’m sorry as it sounds like a really tough situation. It doesn’t mean that he’s not into you. It means that realistically a long distance transatlantic relationship wouldn’t work out when there’s no plan to reunite anytime soon- flights cost a bomb and there’s also the time difference so you can’t even talk for half of the day. Relocating is hard enough already and a clean break sounds harsh but really is for the best. And you couldn’t go with him unless you were to get married (I’m a trailing spouse in the US so I know what I’m talking about) and I’m sure you know that it would be completely insane when you haven’t been together very long.

Take care of yourself.

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe · 19/02/2020 15:17

I'm sorry to say that if he had wanted your relationship to continue, he would have been the one coming up with the solutions. He didn't. On the contrary, he put obstacles and excuses in place of every solution and every concession you wanted to make.

You want this. He doesn't.

If you carry on you'll kick yourself. Write him off now, don't prostate yourself any further. That's my advice. I'm sorry for your pain, I know it hurts.

Bartlet · 19/02/2020 15:17

This is funny song which might cheer you up. Pragmatism at its best.

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