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Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

To feel really rejected?

135 replies

StartingAgain33 · 19/02/2020 13:04

Was seeing someone for 3.5 months. Was progressing really nicely - we were meeting eachother's friends, were exclusive, had just started using boyfriend / girlfriend label - felt safe and happy together, and like feelings were developing at a good pace (although not head over heels). He'd also suggested I meet his dad when he was visiting London.

He has been travelling a lot and had a lot of personal disruption and stress in this time, meaning he has been away for about a month of that and also quite distracted towards the end with said disruption which he has found extremely stressful (he is now going on antidepressants for this). Despite this, it felt like we had established a relatively stable, solid thing (although maybe less connection in the last month due to outside stress).

Then he was told he needed to move back to New York (where he is from) by his job (I'm based in London). He tried his very best to stay - argued with his bosses for weeks and was threatened with being fired etc. His original plan was to settle here and he had been here for two years - but he had no choice (giving up his job would have been stupid - he literally couldn't do better than the one he has, especially not in the UK).

We both agreed it was probably best to break it off rather than go long distance, as we hadn't had a chance to establish enough of a foundation and the only way to be physically together again would be for me to move to New York. I have had a really tough few years and part of me wouldn't mind a fresh start, which I did sort of hint at, but he said he felt that would be lot of pressure on a young relationship and he wouldn't want me to uproot my life.

He also felt that the long distance stuff in between now moving there would not go well - he said he has really suffered from not putting an effort in making friends and establishing himself in London, which has made him very depressed and isolated - and he doesn't want to make that mistake again. He feels that if we were still together his mind would always be in London and he would get anxious and sad (he does have this tendancy), and he would ruin both our relationship and not make a success of his time in New York, which he needs to live in long term now. He also has a huge work project over the next six months which is probably going to mean he's intensely busy - even on weekends.

At the same time though, I feel really sad he doesn't want to try. If he was that into me, I think he would, no? He disagrees and says that he is really into me, that he would have loved to continue this and would have were he in London, and that this decision has nothing to do with his feelings for me or how he saw us developing. He feels we should appreciate what we've had, which has been really good and special, and rare - he hasn't had a girlfriend in quite a long time - but that I should not take this personally at all.

We had a strained conversation yesterday where I was basically trying to get him to admit he just isn't that into me and he refused to and said that the not being able to do long distance is something that is separate to us, and means nothing about how much he values us. He feels like I have a different way of seeing this - which is that feelings are priority and if you want to make something happen it will work - but that he is more practically minded and feels that feelings are only part of an equation.

He feels sad that I'm questioning the validity of our relationship so far because of this, and doesn't want me to think that is wasn't something special.

I guess that he also doesn't want to waste our time on a difficult situation as he knows I want to have kids soon as does he.

Do you think I'm being unreasonable to feel so rejected? I actually feel kind of physically sick. This was the first nice person / relationship I've had in a while, and he made me feel very safe.

But I also think I might be doing something quite self destructive mentally in not believing him, because it probably does make sense practically to end it?

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ActualHornist · 19/02/2020 15:48

YANBU to feel upset. Of course not.

But you know in your heart of hearts that you can't uproot your entire life for something so fragile. You barely know each other.

Keep in touch, and maybe reassess when he is a different position and more able to come back to the UK. He clearly would rather be here than there.

NoMoreDickheads · 19/02/2020 15:51

YANBU. If that's how you feel, then that's how you feel. xxx

Aneley · 19/02/2020 15:51

For some people it does work. My DH and I met just before he moved to US (literally a month before). 6m later we were engaged. 12m later we were married and we still are (8y) and just had a DD. Neither one of us was particularly romantic and I most certainly didn't believe in 'Serendipity' kind of tales - but with him everything felt natural and right and we never bothered thinking whether we were going too slow or too fast - we were on our own pace. On the other hand, it most certainly didn't work for my BIL and his exW. They did pretty much the same and were divorced, bitterly, 2y later.

That being said, your BF doesn't seem to be on the same page with you. I am sorry, but it all sounds like he is not interested in having LD relationship and he's trying to soften it by assuring you that he would have continued relationship with you if he were staying in London. Let me put it like this, from personal experience - if he really wanted it, he would have made it work. It's probably the best if you just move on.

Arthritica · 19/02/2020 15:53

Ha! I was coming to post the same link as @Bartlet!

There is no “One,” there is no “Meant To Be.”
There are just people (some of whom are compatible and some aren’t) and circumstances (some of which help a relationship along, some that disrupt it).

FWIW, I’ve been in a relationship 33 years. That doesn’t make him The One like some destined fairy tale prince. We just liked each other, came to love each other, we’re prepared to put a lot of work into the relationship through the bad bits.

So it’s not that “He’s not that into you,” it’s that after a short relationship he’s moving overseas and can’t see a LDR working out. Circumstances. That’s ok. Think fondly of the time you had together and move on.

Panpastels · 19/02/2020 15:55

I just think some people are led more by their rational assessment of a situation and some by their emotional response. He sounds like the former! I don't think it means he isn't into you. Thanks

StartingAgain33 · 19/02/2020 15:56

@Aneley so who moved for who? How much did you actually see eachother in those first six months before you got engaged?

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StartingAgain33 · 19/02/2020 15:57

@panpastels that's a good point.

He was with someone for four years before, who he loved very much, but he broke it off because he couldnt make certain rational things work - like their attitudes towards money etc. even thought they had been talking about marriage for a while. He says 'they weren't there yet'. I think she was all for it.

I guess he's the practical type!

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StartingAgain33 · 19/02/2020 16:01

Just to be clear @Bluntness100 - I gently suggested it as the only viable solution, because he asked what I thought and I was working it out out loud. We both agreed it was not the right thing and I did not push it.

What I'm saying is, even though I know it's not sensible to go - I'm still feeling rejected even though it was a mutual decision! Which is why I do feel like I'm being unreasonable, but I can't help feeling hurt and blaming myself.

On the surface this was mutual, really.

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BettySwollocksandaCrustyRack · 19/02/2020 16:08

I don't think it's a case of him not being into you, he is just being realistic about the logistics of it all. If he didn't care about you he wouldn't be bothered if you are unwilling to uproot your life for him so clearly he does care. Also, if he is going through a hard time and is on anti depressants then the last thing he needs is to be supporting you with a drastic move and also, what would happen say if you did uproot your life and move over to NYC, and then his company decided to relocate him again.

I don't blame you for being sad but honestly, don't take it personally, it's just one of those things. I bet your friends who have told you "when you know you know" never moved to a different country to be with their partners after 2 months (which is the time you have been together as he was away for 1 month).

BettySwollocksandaCrustyRack · 19/02/2020 16:09

Willing to uproot your life that should have said.

thecatsthecats · 19/02/2020 16:12

It seems that you really want him to either sweep you up with a romantic proposition that YOU can accept or reject, or to clearly and finally reject you in a way that is brutal but clear.

But what he's done is fine. He's been both clear and honest, and his reasons are based in reality.

Just because you want him to do one of those things doesn't mean that his approach is unreasonable. It actually displays how incompatible you are in communication.

This is a no-brainer OP. Stop looking for more from him - he's split up with you! Wallow a bit in what could have been, then move on.

valentinefallout · 19/02/2020 16:14

@StartingAgain33 men who take years to propose are complacent because they don't feel the woman is going anywhere. This guy would probably have broken up with you anyway. The move is just a convenient excuse.

Aneley · 19/02/2020 16:15

@StartingAgain33 - no one moved until we got engaged. We functioned long distance. I was in London, he was in NYC. In those 6m he flew over several times to see me over the weekend (once for a week), I flew once (I was still studying). In total I think we saw each other 6 times in that period. We did spend every free moment on Skype though. Literally, every free moment.

Once we got engaged, I got a job in NYC and moved to be with him (on a work visa). Then 2y later, I got a better job in London so we moved back but we were already married then.

VeryQuaintIrene · 19/02/2020 16:20

You're not in the least unreasonable to be sad, but do you have a US passport or a means of being allowed to stay in New York? Immigration here isn't easy or quick at all.

Bartlet · 19/02/2020 16:22

And that’s valentinefallout twisting the knife in again because she’s special and her OH must have loved her very very very very much doncha know. Sigh.

It’s like being back at school with the deeply insecure girls trying to make other feel bac.

MashedSpud · 19/02/2020 16:22

DH left his family (parents etc), friends, his job and home in Canada to be here with me. We’ve been married twenty years this year. We knew each other for a year and a half before marrying.

The thing is you both need to be on the same page. Maybe if your relationship was a bit older things would be different. He doesn’t seem keen for a ldr which is understandable as they are difficult. The way he’s saying ny isn’t very nice seems to be trying to put you off too.

DH and I were lucky in the respect his grandfather was British so him moving here wasn’t a problem but I’ve heard stories of people being married to US citizens and it taking years and in a few cases the US still refused the non US husband/wife.

Will you both remain in touch when he moves?

MimiLaRue · 19/02/2020 16:23

I'm sorry but there's NO WAY I would want someone ive only known for 3 months to locate to a different country for me. What if you broke up?? Then he'd feel terrible that you moved your entire life to be with him. I wouldn't want that responsibility and I dont blame him for not wanting it either. You dont know this guy - you havent seen him in all situations, in all moods, you dont know what he's like to live with. I'm sorry but this is ridiculous to move to another country for some dude you dont know

StartingAgain33 · 19/02/2020 16:25

@MashedSpud we have said that we will remain friends, yes, as this hasn't been a difficult breakup and it has been mutual, and we are very fond of eachother. We've kind of become eachother's closest friends in this time and were both very sad to say goodbye.

We've also spoken about me visiting him in NY at some point just to see the city - purely as friends! I'll leave it for a while though to let myself heal.

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JKScot4 · 19/02/2020 16:26

You basically knew him 10 weeks and your line of thought is I'm questioning the validity of our relationship so far
There’s no so far, it’s over and you’re being way over the top, move on.

StartingAgain33 · 19/02/2020 16:27

@Bartlet Yes, I didn't take @valentinefallout's comment personally as she's saying he's just a particular type and it's nothing to do with me. But I do think saying a guy needs to know within four months is silly - think of how many relationships fall apart after four months (the vast majority) that at that point looked like they were made to be! We'd have a divorce rate of like 90%?

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Dontdisturbmenow · 19/02/2020 16:29

I get how you feel OP. You thought you'd met someone with a very good potential of becoming the one and that was already a big step for you, so to see it all crumble is heartbreaking.

Then there is the feeling that maybe he should have shown to be more willing to not completely finish it that would justify that he too has seen some potential of your relationship being the one.

His straight forward decision to leave at that undermines what you thought you had.

As someone already said, hindsight is one thing. Maybe he enjoyed your company but his feelings were not half focused on the future as yours were. Or maybe he is as devastated as youbut has a more black and white approach to life.

Ultimately, you've fallen to bad timing with his move so you'll never know in all likelihood what could have been.

Saying that, why not just stay in contact? Not as in being still invested in the relationship and hoping for a miracle but just keeping in touch with a who knows attitude.

StartingAgain33 · 19/02/2020 16:31

Oh to all those who are saying he had big issues anyway and was on antidepressants etc - he only started these two days ago, and it's as a direct result of having his whole life uprooted when he didn't want it to be. He was okay before that - just work stress which would have blown over.

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ComtesseDeSpair · 19/02/2020 16:33

OP, you have to reframe the situation: he isn’t rejecting you, he’s rejecting the situation and the circumstances.

You are a very lovely woman who he likes a lot and who in time he could have come to love, if the circumstances had stayed as they were. He’s not rejecting who you are. He’s rejecting two rubbish options - a LDR, or you moving to be with him after so short a space of time. Neither is a great basis for a relationship. It doesn’t mean he doesn’t think you’re “worth it”, just that statistically it isn’t likely to work out well and it’s much better to leave on a high than to risk the misery it’s going to cause both of you further down the line.

angieloumc · 19/02/2020 16:34

The only reason posters have alluded to the anti depressants is because you mentioned it; if it's just two days of taking them you should've said earlier, folk aren't mind readers.
I don't think it would be a good idea either to visit him 'purely as friends' as that's clearly not what you want.

northernlittledonkey · 19/02/2020 16:34

He's not the guy for you, it's not right. When it is, you'd both move mountains to be together, however fond of him you are now.

Move on, and find someone else. Best of luck too.